herefortheace:

chisayukizome:

herefortheace:

Honestly the ā€œdiscourseā€ is becoming worse and worse and so many people don’t seem to care about the damage they’re doing to so many aces and aros.

I’m starting to think there’s zero point in engaging. I can scream from the rooftops all day about how this thing being said adds to that form of oppression I experience, no one one’s gonna care, because casualties are perfectly acceptable for the sake of not just labelingĀ  ā€œthe rightā€ aces/aros straight, but also mocking us as a community and trivializing the problems we face. No criticism we might make regarding ā€œthe discourseā€ is valid, we have nothing of worth to say, our feelings don’t matter and even the oppression we face for certain is only relevant when it can be used to explain to us how we’re misinterpreting our own experiences, how it’s just the misogyny or racism or whatever else at work and don’t we know instances of marginalization typically exist in isolation from others or they don’t matter. (Don’t we know even the racism or misogyny we might experience doesn’t matter unless things are bad enough our most significant worry by far is being killed.)

ā€œThe discourseā€ is not how the ace/aro community will solve the problems it has. ā€œThe discourseā€ instead causes new ones and exacerbates a variety of old ones. To many of us, it’s the opposite of helpful, and I have no interest in becoming an acceptable sacrifice for someone else’s supposed greater good.

I’m no longer interested in having a conversation, because when I tried, in 95% of cases, it has been a waste of time and worse

Yeah well the ace community is ignoring the damage anti-ace discoursers are causing by making fun of aids, forcibly trying to change the definition of LGBT+’s oppression into ā€œcisheterosexismā€, denying homophobia, denying their own homophobic, lesbophobic, biphobic, transphobic acts, talking over LGBT+ individuals about issues that affect those individuals, and a huge number of other things.’

And literally almost all of us are LGBT+ aces.

Then you can continue making your own posts about that and stay off mine, because this is addressing literally nothing of what I said, unless you count trying to explain to me how hurting me is somehow justified, which is exactly the kind of thing my original post was about (as opposed to ā€œthe ace community can do no wrong and there aren’t people in it who’ve fucked up big timeā€).

i legitimately can’t think of a different explanation for LGBT+ oppression than cisheterosexism though. You’ve got to explain how that can possibly beĀ ā€˜aces rerwiting history’ or whatever you’re claiming, because, it’s literally the only definition of LGBT+ and queer i’ve ever heard

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