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i mean, right? this checks out? btw “amphetosexual” is a neuro-sexuality i just coined, where one’s sense of sexuality is inextricably tied with being a crystal meth addict. i’ve stopped going to AA because it’s conversion therapy for me as an amphetosexual. i hope i can count on your support as i journey into mogai micro-identities.

What the actual hell is wrong with you fucks. Why the *hell* do you think conversion therapy jokes are funny in ANY context? Like. What the actual hell. -mod karkles

ummmmm it’s not a joke? twelve step recovery is conversion therapy for ampheto-sexuals like myself. why do you hate neuro-sexualities? why are you being so ableist toward neurodivergent people? do you hate addicts or what???

Dude. You’re existence is a joke. You literally exist on this blog to mock people. I don’t hate neurodivergent people. I don’t hate neuro-sexualities. I’m not the one fucking mocking them.

@diskhorsedudes gem im dyin. I got called ableist for callin out someone for mocking the idea of conversion therapy

hey gay mentally ill alcoholic here, what the actual fuck you demon? just don’t talk about mental illness ever again if this is the shit that’s going to fall out of your mouth

hey, tweaker faggot here, and no. i’m not the one tacitly admitting that “ampheto-sexual” is a valid “neuro-sexuality” lmao

yeah no? no one gives a shit about your bad joke, but you’re attacking the very fucking basic idea that someone’s mental illness can affect their sexuality. and your awful conversion therapy joke? it’s bad. you have no reason to joke about that, and​ you laughing at someone bringing up ableism? do you honest to god think you’re funny,relevant, interesting? let people call their sexuality whatever they fucking want, you don’t need to become the living embodiment of family guy humour over it

so hold up, am i allowed to call myself an ampheto-sexual or not

and, if i am, if it’s perfectly fine to define my sexuality as “meth addict,” then how is calling Crystal Meth Anonymous “conversion therapy” out of line? because, if we go by the ace community’s (wrong) definition of “conversion therapy,” then 12 step recovery is literally ableist conversion therapy for anyone who falls on the addict-sexual spectrum!

if you think i’m making fun of the idea that mental illness can inform a person’s experience of sexuality, allow me to clarify: being a meth addict, an alcoholic, (and also HIV+) are all inextricably tied to my self-conception as a gay man. but that doesn’t make me “ampheto-sexual” lmao, i’m still just gay. i’m making fun of your politics, not your experiences.

did u just say the conversion therapy joke again? that’s your response when people tell you to stop making fun of people’s sexualities? thanks south park this has been real fun

and, my politics not my experiences? do you think my politics is making microlabels because they’re cool? or do you think maybe my politics is letting people define themselves​ however they like without deserving ridicule? because no one decides how to define them but themselves? people are making microlabels when they feel they need to describe something that there isn’t a word for yet, and I don’t see what’s wrong with people fucking describing themselves. do you really think people are coming up with microlabels to piss you off or something​? i still remember how it feels to come out and hear someone tell me i must be fucking delusional, how do you forget that? how do you keep making these jokes to make people doubt their own damn sexuality and gender and still think you’re fucking revolutionary

i am asking you point-blank: do you think ampheto-sexuality is valid? and i ask this as a person who spent multiple years uninterested in sex unless methamphetamines were involved.

no, fuck off, i do not believe in your bullshit because i know what a joke looks like. this is a decade old anti-sjw tactic? I don’t think it’s a real identity because you made it as a fucking meme you dickstain. I also don’t believe in fucking circumgender, absorbagender, cancergender, cupcakegender. I don’t believe in clovergender, that “I identify as a child” bullshit the 4chan pedophiles made up. I haven’t actually ever seen the use of aesthetic orientations outside of anti-sj tumblr. The only time i’ve seen fucking -platonic used as an affix is fucking queerplatonic, which I’ve never seen used in an orientation outside of these jokes. I have seen none of these things outside of people saying “wouldn’t it be ridiculous if the MOGAI’s do this?”

My one requirement of believing something is valid is if i see a real damn human being, who isn’t an obvious troll blog, say it’s a useful term that helps them. That’s it. I haven’t seen people say any of the unreasonable shit you’re putting in their mouths. It’s really not hard to avoid smearposts and rely on real people for my info, i think you should try it

this isn’t new, it’s not fun? these exact same “do you believe in this ridiculuous thing?” catch-22s have been coming from truscum tumblr, TERF tumblr, fucking neo-nazi tumblr for years. it’s such a basic part of reactionary politics that complaining about ‘made-up’ genders and sexualities are in every thinkpiece about how millenials are ruining the world. just… get a new joke i’m so tired

so it, like, doesn’t matter to you that i very honestly considered myself an “ampheto-sexual,” in the sense that i only wanted to have sex if methamphetamine was involved, for literal years. it apparently doesn’t matter that i DO consider my addictions to be deeply-entwined with my sexual identity, inextricable even, to the point where i am half-serious when i talk about “addict-sexuality,” and you’re apparently so outta the loop that you are unaware that i am faaaar from alone in this, that there is an entire subculture of gay men and trans women that revolves around smoking/shooting meth and fucking.

but, literally because you don’t like me, you’re gonna call me a neo-nazi lmao, while on the other hand tacitly admitting that YES ampheto-sexuality is perfectly valid if it’s claimed by a person you DO like.

problem is, your side of the discourse has very few addicts (or gay men for that matter) so no one on your side has gotten around to coining a term for it. you don’t fuck, and you CLEARLY don’t party, so idk why you even give a shit about faggots like me lol

“but my joke about how much i hate mogais was actually sincere” oh im sorry do u not feel validated? 😦

also dude, im gay. are you implying i’m a homophobe or a misandrist or what. do i have to prove I don’t hate gay men by putting up with more anti-sj bullshit? is that really how it works

the joke, which continues to fly right over your head, is that if “ampheto-sexuality” had been coined by a person you LIKE as “a useful term that helps them” you would accept it without question. it’s a flaw in your fucking politics.

i mean, i do also hate mogais, don’t mistake me, but that’s not the joke.

do u feel like the term has helped you? come to terms with anything, find other amphetosexuals? are you really not getting the qualifier that i believe in sexualities that aren’t /made as jokes/?

well, the actual term we use in The Community is “tweaker” and sure, it did help me connect with other tweakers, by which i mean, it helped me find people to give me drugs and fuck me. it even gave me a sense of community, kind of! there aren’t a whole lotta Queer Theory discussions going on in the bathhouses, so the language is not as rarefied, but surely you get my point?

again: you have no valid reason within your own framework to reject a construction like “ampheto-sexual,” and indeed you’ve already admitted that you would accept it if it was proposed by someone else. this, of course, would never happen, because your community appeals to a different demographic, one which largely does not include people like me (drug addict, HIV+, gay man).

you can say you reject it because i’m operating in bad faith, but the point remains: so long as a person, in apparent good faith, claims a term “helps” them, you will accept it. hence the heteromantic homosexuals, the bi lesbians, the masc-aligned sapphics, etc. (all of which, btw, have been proposed and defended by prominent members of your community!). the very fact that your Identity Politik is capable of being trolled in this way condemns it. that’s the joke.

it’s split attraction dude how am I going to tell someone they’re Feeling things wrong

i have never heard of a bi lesbian but i’m assuming it’s a split attraction thing? but here’s the fun bit, that’s not up for you to decide what a lesbian is

masc-sapphic sounds butch, idk. but if you’re talking about trans men calling themselves lesbian then it’s pretty obvious i would be against men calling themselves lesbians? you actually have to be clear about these things and what they mean so i can get what you have against them

like you are welcome. MOGAI includes gay men, you’re covered in the acronym. you might have to leave transphobia and biphobia at the door and stop pulling oppression olympics​ but that’s your problem, not mine. and stop making conversion therapy jokes! who the fuck are they for! but you’re fucking invited to the club if that’s what you’re mad about. but if you’re going to say shit like, MOGAIs hate addicts, which isn’t my experience, or MOGAIs hate ppl with HIV+, then i’m genuinely up to hearing it. but literally, everything i have heard from you is the tired, tired reactionary shit fighting against new words for genders and sexualities. people fucking describing themselves. you just need a real complaint other than thinking that fucking trolling us is politics

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i mean, right? this checks out? btw “amphetosexual” is a neuro-sexuality i just coined, where one’s sense of sexuality is inextricably tied with being a crystal meth addict. i’ve stopped going to AA because it’s conversion therapy for me as an amphetosexual. i hope i can count on your support as i journey into mogai micro-identities.

What the actual hell is wrong with you fucks. Why the *hell* do you think conversion therapy jokes are funny in ANY context? Like. What the actual hell. -mod karkles

ummmmm it’s not a joke? twelve step recovery is conversion therapy for ampheto-sexuals like myself. why do you hate neuro-sexualities? why are you being so ableist toward neurodivergent people? do you hate addicts or what???

Dude. You’re existence is a joke. You literally exist on this blog to mock people. I don’t hate neurodivergent people. I don’t hate neuro-sexualities. I’m not the one fucking mocking them.

@diskhorsedudes gem im dyin. I got called ableist for callin out someone for mocking the idea of conversion therapy

hey gay mentally ill alcoholic here, what the actual fuck you demon? just don’t talk about mental illness ever again if this is the shit that’s going to fall out of your mouth

hey, tweaker faggot here, and no. i’m not the one tacitly admitting that “ampheto-sexual” is a valid “neuro-sexuality” lmao

yeah no? no one gives a shit about your bad joke, but you’re attacking the very fucking basic idea that someone’s mental illness can affect their sexuality. and your awful conversion therapy joke? it’s bad. you have no reason to joke about that, and​ you laughing at someone bringing up ableism? do you honest to god think you’re funny,relevant, interesting? let people call their sexuality whatever they fucking want, you don’t need to become the living embodiment of family guy humour over it

so hold up, am i allowed to call myself an ampheto-sexual or not

and, if i am, if it’s perfectly fine to define my sexuality as “meth addict,” then how is calling Crystal Meth Anonymous “conversion therapy” out of line? because, if we go by the ace community’s (wrong) definition of “conversion therapy,” then 12 step recovery is literally ableist conversion therapy for anyone who falls on the addict-sexual spectrum!

if you think i’m making fun of the idea that mental illness can inform a person’s experience of sexuality, allow me to clarify: being a meth addict, an alcoholic, (and also HIV+) are all inextricably tied to my self-conception as a gay man. but that doesn’t make me “ampheto-sexual” lmao, i’m still just gay. i’m making fun of your politics, not your experiences.

did u just say the conversion therapy joke again? that’s your response when people tell you to stop making fun of people’s sexualities? thanks south park this has been real fun

and, my politics not my experiences? do you think my politics is making microlabels because they’re cool? or do you think maybe my politics is letting people define themselves​ however they like without deserving ridicule? because no one decides how to define them but themselves? people are making microlabels when they feel they need to describe something that there isn’t a word for yet, and I don’t see what’s wrong with people fucking describing themselves. do you really think people are coming up with microlabels to piss you off or something​? i still remember how it feels to come out and hear someone tell me i must be fucking delusional, how do you forget that? how do you keep making these jokes to make people doubt their own damn sexuality and gender and still think you’re fucking revolutionary

i am asking you point-blank: do you think ampheto-sexuality is valid? and i ask this as a person who spent multiple years uninterested in sex unless methamphetamines were involved.

no, fuck off, i do not believe in your bullshit because i know what a joke looks like. this is a decade old anti-sjw tactic? I don’t think it’s a real identity because you made it as a fucking meme you dickstain. I also don’t believe in fucking circumgender, absorbagender, cancergender, cupcakegender. I don’t believe in clovergender, that “I identify as a child” bullshit the 4chan pedophiles made up. I haven’t actually ever seen the use of aesthetic orientations outside of anti-sj tumblr. The only time i’ve seen fucking -platonic used as an affix is fucking queerplatonic, which I’ve never seen used in an orientation outside of these jokes. I have seen none of these things outside of people saying “wouldn’t it be ridiculous if the MOGAI’s do this?”

My one requirement of believing something is valid is if i see a real damn human being, who isn’t an obvious troll blog, say it’s a useful term that helps them. That’s it. I haven’t seen people say any of the unreasonable shit you’re putting in their mouths. It’s really not hard to avoid smearposts and rely on real people for my info, i think you should try it

this isn’t new, it’s not fun? these exact same “do you believe in this ridiculuous thing?” catch-22s have been coming from truscum tumblr, TERF tumblr, fucking neo-nazi tumblr for years. it’s such a basic part of reactionary politics that complaining about ‘made-up’ genders and sexualities are in every thinkpiece about how millenials are ruining the world. just… get a new joke i’m so tired

so it, like, doesn’t matter to you that i very honestly considered myself an “ampheto-sexual,” in the sense that i only wanted to have sex if methamphetamine was involved, for literal years. it apparently doesn’t matter that i DO consider my addictions to be deeply-entwined with my sexual identity, inextricable even, to the point where i am half-serious when i talk about “addict-sexuality,” and you’re apparently so outta the loop that you are unaware that i am faaaar from alone in this, that there is an entire subculture of gay men and trans women that revolves around smoking/shooting meth and fucking.

but, literally because you don’t like me, you’re gonna call me a neo-nazi lmao, while on the other hand tacitly admitting that YES ampheto-sexuality is perfectly valid if it’s claimed by a person you DO like.

problem is, your side of the discourse has very few addicts (or gay men for that matter) so no one on your side has gotten around to coining a term for it. you don’t fuck, and you CLEARLY don’t party, so idk why you even give a shit about faggots like me lol

“but my joke about how much i hate mogais was actually sincere” oh im sorry do u not feel validated? 😦

also dude, im gay. are you implying i’m a homophobe or a misandrist or what. do i have to prove I don’t hate gay men by putting up with more anti-sj bullshit? is that really how it works

the joke, which continues to fly right over your head, is that if “ampheto-sexuality” had been coined by a person you LIKE as “a useful term that helps them” you would accept it without question. it’s a flaw in your fucking politics.

i mean, i do also hate mogais, don’t mistake me, but that’s not the joke.

do u feel like the term has helped you? come to terms with anything, find other amphetosexuals? are you really not getting the qualifier that i believe in sexualities that aren’t /made as jokes/?