lonaw:

clitcheese:

clitcheese:

“traps aren’t trans women, they’re effeminate gay dudes who crossdress to deceive and fuck straight guys”
ok but you’ve, just decided to counter an accusation of transphobia with “checkmate, i’m a huge transphobe AND homophobe. weren’t expecting that one hey?”. like you really thought your knowledge of fetish anime would make you look Less Gross

continually surprised how chasers think they’re getting away with: “my fetish isn’t trans women, my fetish is just identical in every way to trans women except closeted, or traumatised to staying in the closet and who doesn’t have the language or confidence to ask to be respected. also a cartoon usually.”

@clitcheese
     Traps (normally for the architype anyway ) are not trans, they are in fact Male biologically, and they identify as male as far as I know. They are simply gender roll nonconforming. Thus they are CIS and thus not identical to trans women. I think calling a cis man in a dress trying to trick men into sex trans is actually kind of degrading to trans women, but IDK that just IMO.

     
Of course this all ignores the high improbability of a trans woman
trying to deceive a straight man into having sex. Cause you know….
they know that they NORMALLY END UP DEAD OR BEATEN IF THEY DO THAT AND AS SUCH IT IS EXCEEDING DANGEROUS TO DO AS SUCH. Not to mention it’s really kinda shitty to deceive someone like that and trans people aren’t psychopaths who would do shit like that.

     Another matter is that the fantasy of fucking a dude in a dress is…. well… pretty damn gay. They are still a dude after all and as a “straight” guy the moment the dick pops out you SHOULD theoretically be out the door and down the street. I think it bespeaks to sort of ingrained homophobia that has caused a rejection of a part of the self. The truth in such individuals I theorizes is that they are gay(or bi) and simply can’t reconcile that with there oppressive notions of manliness they have grown up with; thus they need to dress up the target of there desires as feminine to make it acceptable to there “manhood” or otherwise let go there toxic masculinity(and finally let the healing begin).

once more this is all IMO and I love hearing feedback and pointers and other points of views especially from people with a pedigree on the subject like you.

traps aren’t real. i can’t argue with you on the basis that this is a real thing that exists in real life. it’s a fetish label. you’re looking at a poorly done caricature of the oldest stereotypes of trans women and saying “see this isn’t transmisogyny, the real transmisogyny would be to think this has something to do with trans women” when it’s very clearly what cis people think of us.

and again, read the op again. very carefully. like it predicted, you’re trying to have an argument over wether this is a harmful stereotype of gay men as rapists, or trans women as rapists. like do you hear yourself? you’re still relying on homophobia in your post trying to defend a stereotype. let it go

the-black–plague:

peach-course:

Do not support Adam (2018)

I recently heard the news that Adam by Ariel Schrag will be getting a movie. I read the book myself about a year and a half ago and I cannot stress enough just how problematic it is.

Adam is a book about a cis boy pretending to be a trans man in order to trick a lesbian into dating him.

Adam goes to New York to stay with his lesbian sister for the summer, and while he’s there he meets trans men who consider themselves lesbians. At a party he meets a lesbian he thinks is pretty and in order to get into a relationship with her he lies and tells her he’s a pre transition trans man. Let’s make a list of some of the highlights from the book, shall we?

  • At the very beginning of the book his sister and her girlfriend visit home and Adam and his friend spies on them having sex.
  • Almost all the trans men in the book identify as lesbians, implying that they are still women because they haven’t transitioned yet.
  • Adam, a cis straight boy, tells a lesbian that he is a trans man to trick her into dating him.
  • Incidentally Adam is 17 I believe, pretending to be 21. His girlfriend is in the 23 range, I don’t recall exactly.
  • There are explicit sex scenes, the first of which involved Adam using an ace bandage to hold his erection down and using a strapon to have sex with her.
  • In the second one he claims to be using a strapon but is, in reality, using his actual penis.
  • Which is fucking rape.
  • The book doesn’t try to justify this, it somehow manages to do something worse.
  • This second scene is one of the last in the book. After he pulls out he lays down next to her and confesses that he’s not trans. She responds “I know.”
  • She says after they first had sex she started fantasizing about him as a “real guy” (yes quote) and that the image stuck in her mind and she started subconsciously imagining him with a penis.
  • And it gets worse.
  • So he goes back to ohio and she sleeps with other girls (because for some reason she decides not to break up with this cis 17 year old who lied about his identity literally raped her) and one night he gets drunk and calls her a bitch and a fucking whore and whatever, and THAT’S apparently the point she thinks that maybe they should break up.
  • And one day they message eachother to catch up i think maybe he graduated at this point idk but hes planning on visiting his sister in new york and they wanna meet up and
  • She tells him about her new boyfriend.
  • Get ready for it
  • Cis. Man.

So. We have

An underage cishet boy lying about being an adult trans man in order to trick a lesbian into dating him!

A scene in which he actually rapes her!

The lesbian in question becomes attracted to cis men making Adam, essentially, conversion therapy!

Do NOT support Adam (2018)

Ariel Schrag used to sometimes be in my high school for some reason, so I’ve met her in person and let me tell you with just one look at her it becomes obvious that she sees trans men as an advanced form of butch women

punlich:

I mean pals, friendos, we’ve all talked about how media depictions influence things like racism and transphobia and misogyny.

We’ve all talked about how scrubbing media of all depictions is bad, tokenization is bad, false or slanderous depictions are bad and they all influence the ways people think of vulnerable people. This is common ground!

None of you fandom kids crying about “antis” are unfamiliar with this discourse, it’s basic level crap.

So why does that all disintegrate the moment the stuff you find sexy in your prons gets a tiny iota of criticism? I haven’t even said anything about your own coping responses. I’m not your therapist. It’s not my call to say if watching rape porn is good or bad for your healing process and in no way am I going to get in the way of whatever things you do privately in your own home to cope. 

But everything that literally all of us know about media does still extend to porn. The ways women are depicted in porn can still harm women as a class by priming men as a class because it’s still media, that people consume (often uncritically) like literally all other forms of media. The ways trans women are depicted in porn can still do harm! Racism in porn still does harm! Those things don’t just disappear because it’s your fave wank bank material!

And that can’t be ignored. We need to change all forms of media. Porn included. It’s all got problems. Get a grip, folks

warriorsdebt:

diskhorsedudes:

catnipkittie5:

aro-bendy:

I guarantee you, anyone with “x critical” wording in their blog description is either a radfem or unwittingly drinking radfem koolaid

not to be that dude but what about kink critical or people who are critical of the media they consume (like su critical). i dont think they’re drinkin the koolaid, i think its just unfortunate that radfems ruined ___ critical. (which im confused anyway because I’ve literally only seen radfems use gender critical)

Swerfs often consider themselves kink critical so that’s been ruined for me, too. That might not be the case for other people but it is for a fair amount of people.

kink-critical is 12,000% radfem koolaid and that’s just the facts.

Like I hate speaking about this publicly in any capacity for a lot of reasons but this is like the 4th example of this misunderstanding I’ve seen this week and it needs to be addressed because I feel like people are starting to lose the thread of radical feminism and its pervasive toxicity by boiling the entire ideology down to only the TERF [and occasionally SWERF] archetypes so I guess I gotta bring this discussion down on my own damn head.

So here’s the deal: the foundational tenets of radical feminism result in many wide-reaching beliefs About The World, and men, and women, and people of other genders, and the way they interact–and they have a great deal of interest in classifying those systems of interaction in ways that reinforce the foundational tenets. One of those beliefs is that men are abusers and women victims, unilaterally. They believe also that women are brainwashed by patriarchy to accept, normalize, or overlook violence done against them by men. This is tied in directly with beliefs about BDSM being a system which allows men to abuse women, and which encourages women to believe they want it when in fact they are being conditioned to accept violence. If you’re seeing some kernels of swerf n’ terf ideology in that portrayal, good–you’re getting the point. BDSM [or a straw man of it, anyway] is usually the big bad in this system of beliefs, but the formation of the argument allows it to reach well into other kinks and sexual practices, reclassifying them into some form that denies the agency of everyone involved, paints at least one party as an abuser exploiting a power system, and positions radical feminists as the noble crusaders defending Good Misled Women from Bad Exploitative Men–tying the whole thing back into the core ideas they have about the shape of the world, and also tying them into their other beliefs–what kind of people are men, for example, or what kind of behaviours women are A. not allowed to do and B. are too ignorant to realise they shouldn’t be doing [in their belief system].

Because that’s the thing about radical feminism at the end of the day. All of the beliefs are interconnected and products of the same twisted logic, usually reinforced with just enough grains of truth or plausibility to make them appealing–and to make them likely to be picked up, embraced, and circulated by people who may not recognize their origins. This is deliberate. Recruitment is a major game for radfems, and rather than hit a potentially open-minded, reasonable person over the head with “trans women are men” right out of the gate, they seed these other, tangential beliefs first. They package them in conspicuously TERF-free wrapping. They sprinkle them into communities where they’ll be taken at that face value. They market them to vulnerable people looking for a way to explain, understand, and heal from bad things that have happened to them. And then, when you’ve swallowed that key piece of their logic, they bring you into the fold by giving you more and more of the big picture, each step leading naturally and by design from the one you’ve already accepted.

And I know this, because that’s how they got me. They found a young, scared, confused, hurt person–someone who had had their interest in kink used by unscrupulous people to rape and abuse them, and someone who had been alienated from mainstream feminism due to complicated trauma reactions around those same events. It wasn’t my fault, they assured me. Of course Other Feminists weren’t equipped to understand me. They could help me heal. They could help me understand. They knew what I’d been through and they had the answers. They got me hook line and fucking sinker by using their kink-critical ideologies to exploit my trauma and vulnerability and position themselves as the answer to my pain. And then they fed me more, and more, and more beliefs that all seemed like such a natural extension of that first one, the one I was the most receptive to. It took me years to figure out what had happened and disentangle myself, and I’m still deprogramming a lot of it.

So, yeah. Kink-critical is radfem ideology down to the bones. And because I know it’s gonna come up–you’re allowed to not like kink in general. You’re allowed to be squicked or triggered by specific kinks, or even the whole affair. Complicated or even outright negative reactions to those things are well within the range of normal. But “kink-critical” as a whole, and as an unexamined belief including refusing to question where it came from, who it benefits, and what it leads to, is pure radfem bullshit. 

Gross blog warning

tggwikia:

Alright, so an aquaintince of mine named lena stumbled across a blog known as lesbian-rehab-program and the blog contains as they described “a bunch of straight porn with captions like ‘take that you filthy lesbo c-nt’ and are tagged as feminism and lesbian.

Obviously im asking yall to report and block the blog since it’s disgusting and lesbophobic. I’d also like you all to signal boost so other sapphics/lesbians can know about the blog as well since it’s completely repulsive, thank you.