- trans people were added in later in the LGBT movement
- straight trans people can call themselves gay
- trans men can call themselves lesbians
- cis lgbp should quit using the word cis in cishet and cis aroace, even though by doing so, you’d implicitly be kicking out trans/nb people
- aces have a greater right to LGBT spaces than trans people do, because asexuality is a sexuality and trans isn’t
- defending TERFs from meanies who want them run over by a bus
hey could you provide urls and screenshots so i know who to block? and so i can spread it around so other trans inclusionists know who to block. otherwise this post is completely useless at stopping this behaviour
except for the 1st and 4th points, which i think are misunderstandings. of basic stuff like trans people saying that we had to fight for a letter in the acronym, which is really gross to say that our recent history is terf rhetoric. point 4, trans people are frustrated that some cis people are misusing the word cishet to imply that they don’t also benefit from cis privilege. which is again, really dishonest to say that trans people are using terf rhetoric if you’re cis
Right, I plan on getting around to making screenshots sometime, but it’ll take a while, because this was just an informal list of bad behavior I’ve seen from inclusionists, and it should hopefully stop some of the transphobia going around.
I always interpreted the first point as trans people didn’t always participate in the community and became participants in the community later on, not this letter-adding stuff, and that is wrong, because bi trans women of color helped start the community.
The fourth point, the cis in both cishet and cis aroace is so that we can acknowledge straight trans people don’t oppress us, and we can acknowledge we oppress trans people on that axis. We’re probably going to have to agree to disagree on that point.
oh yeah this is sleepdontvisit’s version of history. trans women of colour started the movement, and then nothing political happened afterwards, of course. nothing like TERFs, or respectability politics spending a few decades distancing the gay community from trans people. we’re not saying trans people weren’t always there, but we’re acknowledging that some parts of the community actively fought against trans people being there. denying that the T is a relatively recent addition to the acronym only erases the work we had to do against respectability politics.
also, Stonewall happened long before the term bisexual caught on. bisexuals were always there as lesbian and gay, because they only referred to kinds of relationships before they meant political identities. they had to persuade people to include the B, to signify that they still belonged when terminology shifted.
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