also TERFS: pretty much always describing a sense of belonging and community with other cis women, a deep desire to protect cis women & girls, literally talk of women’s spaces as sacred and holy and beautiful 🙊
TERFs: all male children undergo male socialisation
also TERFs: “gender neutral parenting is abusive”, offer no solutions to their own concept of male socialisation
it’s been what, a year of SGA Discourse? if i google SGA, i get pages about gardening and random businesses with those initials. if i google “same gender attraction” i get a few resources, but the top pages are christian and mormon sources and a lot of them call it a sin.
if i google MOGAI, i get resources. lots of resources and pages discussing terminology. the first page of Google has one link to “MOGAI hates lesbians”, written by a Discourser who’s entirety writing about how ‘allosexual’ is insulting, but the rest are all pretty positive.
so just. I don’t think it’s ethical to tell people that LGBT+ is synonymous with “SGA and Trans people” because it’s just a conversion therapy honeypot.
You realize when you look sga up it usually shows results for same sex attraction which is not the same and sga is derived from same gender loving
me turning in my graduate thesis: yeah i didn’t use any … what’s it called…. da-ta-basses? and i didn’t read any scientific journals to back up my claims, but i DID google my thesis statement and hit up a few google keywords for my abstract, and look at all these sick sources i got from buzzfeed and yahoo answers, so i know WITHOUT A DOUBT that i’m right and nobody else could be more right than me. google knows everything, y’all
are questioning kids going through databases now? kids google, that was my point. this wasn’t about anything but what kids are going to find if they look it up, because that is how they educate themselves outside of school and parents. and it brings up overwhelmingly christian sites. That’s All. I’m sorry this doesn’t have 20 citations and it’s not peer reviewed but i’m just saying they’re going to be harmed and shamed if that’s the acronym we tell kids about.
you didn’t mention questioning kids, or kids in general, in your original statement. you literally just said it was about what “people” thought. don’t fucking backtrack and lie to make it seem like you were “uwu just protecting the kids” because you ended up looking like a fool lmao
your post reads that YOU, in your infinite wisdom, are deciding whether MOGAI or SGA is a better acronym to use based on the first page of google, ignoring that a) the first page of google results is not a valid form of sources, b) that the google algorithm is replacing “gender” with “sex” (since it searches for terms similar to the one you actually type in), and c) that google (like many search engines) is notorious for boosting pages that pay them money to the front page, which thereby banishes thousands of other legitimate results to the back of google hell.
sorry, your post doesn’t mention anything about kids, or questioning people, or LGBT people at all. the only context is someone who doesn’t actually know how to use google trying to pretend that their google results are the ultimate authority.
i said it’s unethical to send anyone looking for conversion therapy resources, and yes, especially questioning kids because they’re the most likely to google this stuff and are especially vulnerable. These are the first three results, are you going to pretend this is okay?
That’s the first page of results on my mobile. There are 2 results that are in anyway positive and not related to conversion therapy, which seem to be results based on my location.
This is what I get on my laptop – They’re literally all advocating for conversion therapy. I don’t know why the results look different, but my laptop isn’t giving any location-based results, so that may have something to do with it. I don’t know what the inner workings of google look like, and I’m not claiming to know. If anyone wants to show me a google search that gives less pro-conversion results, I can open my submission box for you. All I remember is when I was figuring out my identity, I relied a lot on google, and I know none of these results would have helped. I know googling words isn’t fucking “scientific”, but it’s what I remember doing as a youngster. kids, especially queer kids, get their sex ed from google. like, I’m not saying SGA discourers are pro-conversion therapy, I’m just saying this is such a specifically tumblr-discourser term that there isn’t enough use of the term to outnumber that of homophobic Christians.
and holy fuck is it that hard to say gay and bi and pan? and MLM and WLW? Sapphic and Achillean? There’s always better vocabulary you can use and it’s just not justifiable to keep spreading conversion therapy terms.
Like a month ago I messaged a craft group about accessibility for wheelchairs and the answer I got was “there’s a lot of stairs but we have cute boys who can carry you”.
And it’s…not good. As a wheelchair bound person I largely depend on people when I want to go out and do *anything* so I’m used to it, I laugh it off, make an annoyed post about it and off I go. But I wanna just say a thing real quick.
Even if I wasn’t gay, wasn’t a survivor scared of men, getting help as a disabled person is just…Not a pleasant thing to us! Imagine for a sec how you’d feel being carried up a flight of stairs. You’re a grown person. You’re being touched in an awkward way. You’d rather do it yourself. You’re So Uncomfortable. It’s not where I look for the beginning of a romantic relationship.
So like…could abled people stop doing this thing where they think helping us in a condescending and infantilizing way is cute? Cause I’m real tired. Just get me a ramp or lift and I’m cool. I don’t need a dating service when I’m just trying to go about my day
If you’re abled please reblog it cause like…the more ppl knows the better
every time someone says that any homophobic slur isn’t aimed at trans women regardless of orientation i feel like i age a billion years
het nobody is queer they are literally opposing concepts
I don’t like this idea but I’m having a hard time articulating why r/n I’ll get back to it later.
Yeah I think I got this now.
This positions the western colonially-derived concept of gayness as the only true queerness and only conditionally permits other forms of queerness which do not abide by that western colonial framework.
This segments and disenfranchises hetero trans women whom I should not have to explain to you are being murdered by the dozen ON THIS DAY OF ALL DAYS. Does that not sound like marginalization to you? The more I think about this the angrier I get.
I mean it’s a fuckin trope to bring it up but there were plenty of man loving trans women fighting at stonewall. Is that not queer enough for you? I’m really growing ever more disgusted with this exclusionary process.
The whole point of the narrative of queerness is to be liberating. Revolutionary and destructive to the order of patriarchy, heteronormativity, cisnormativity, to break open the neat airtight containers and allow movement and the freedom to self-position, to self-define, and that cannot be accomplished with this kind of resistance to change.
Does someone who is transgender and attracted to another gender not experience the kind of abuses that we do as trans lesbians? Do they not experience violence, do they not experience being bludgoned with slurs, do they not experience being taught to loathe their own body for not meeting an impossible standard? Do they not experience the violation of bodily integrity which comes with an unwanted puberty?
Do intersex people not experience a kind of violation of bodily integrity as well? Do they not experience stigmatization and the pressure to conceal what and who they are, the reality of their body and the effect that has on their identity?
Do asexual people not go for years believing that they are fundamentally broken, as we go through years believing the same about ourselves?
Why do you want to hand the keys to the fucking kingdom to the very cisgay motherfuckers who would kick YOUR ASS out of the movement in a hot second, autogynephile? Like, love yourself, goddess almighty.
Jesus fucking Christ the longer it goes on the worse it gets
Call it a controversial observation BUT I don’t think Kimberle Crenshaw introduced intersectionality and privilege theory so yaw could play these little Regina George style identity turf war reindeer games every time you feel bitter about another axis getting increased visibility.
anyway i hope that my fellow lesbians are mostly past the sentiment that dating bi girls immediately implies a ‘tangential relationship to men.’
because you don’t know the dating history of every single bi girl on the planet, so you’re making ugly generalizations about a group of women who have, throughout our history, stood by our side and who face struggles similar to ours. like yes, men are fucking awful, and as lesbians we face horrible and often violent lesbophobia from men, but that isn’t on bi girls, it’s not their responsibility and it’s not their fault, and to write off other wlw simply because of their ***potential*** past or future choice of partners (again, you don’t know fuck all about who bi women are dating, who they will date, whether they have a preference for men or women, etc, and even if you did, it doesn’t fucking matter) is ugly and biphobic and yes it does contribute to the specific struggles bi women face, like higher rates of intimate partner violence. writing bi girls off as people who are just susceptible to men’s violence by virtue of being attracted to them and blaming them for whatever happens to them due to this is victim blaming and ugly, and we need to fucking do better than this.
so no. most lesbians aren’t ~wary~ of dating bi girls. biphobes don’t get to speak for the rest of us who would rather stand in solidarity with our bi sisters than speak over them and play identity politics.
Absolutely, and you don’t know the dating history of lesbians too which can also include men, I know it does for me. Relationships either last or they don’t, and so in general focusing on past and future relationships in any context is so unhealthy for your current one. Great post.
this is also a good point! i didn’t want to get into the gold star bullshit bc a) this was a positivity post for bi girls and b) if i got started on that mess i’d be here for hours but yes!
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its been a long journey, but you guys? ive finally found an orientation for me
i hope i can count on your support
ive recently discovered myself as chungoalterous ,, im so happy to be in such a supportive community where i really feel loved for being my true chungo self
this is so embarassing
The worst part is I just assumed this was a cishet anti-sjw but nope its just a reg
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