bpd-hyena:

opisaheterophobe:

aphobicrosequartz:

mogai-is-bogai:

opisaheterophobe:

mogai-is-bogai:

One of the star trek blogs I follow: posts some inclusionist shit

Me, screaming with my mouth closed: do I really want to start drama right now

I feel you I follow a lot of pastel blogs and a lot of them make positivity posts and I see too many “All aces are kuWHEEER uwu wuwuwuwuwuwuwuwu” and it grinds my damn gears

I just want to shitpost about Star Trek in peace for God’s sake

One of the main fandoms I’m in is a landmine for inclusionists and mogai. I see shit pass my dash and it’s just mmmmmmm

I remember back in my Superwholock days a lot of the blogs I followed were some of the first to post cringey ace humor and I reblogged because I identified as a grey ace at the time (ugh) and now I look back and regret every moment of it

I run a stimblog and I see all these blogs following it that are anti aphobe and im just??? Also a few had ace sherlock on them in the year of our lord 2017.

Honestly do not ever involve yourself in stimblog stuff if you aren’t prepared for all the “don’t follow if you’re an aphobe” crap because I swear it’s unavoidable

this post is so genuinely satisfying, i hope none of you ever find peace

(transphobia cw) compulsory heterosexuality was explicitly used by adrienne rich, who created the term, to say trans women are Actually Just Dudes and lesbians who like trans women aren’t Real Lesbians, but sure, pointing all that out is the REAL transmisogyny here >_>

mukhannath:

thats what i thought tbh

Exclusionists: “Allosexual is bad! Asepc is stolen! Corrective rape is referring to lesbian issues only! Change it!” …”What? Compulsory heterosexuality was made by a TERF? It doesn’t matter where it comes from, just how it’s used! Why should we change it?” (if I’m reading this whole situation correctly)

mukhannath:

dare i say ahistorical

clitcheese:

there is no middle ground that i can see. if just believing people about their own sexualities and identities is problematic to you, then you are supporting medical gatekeeping, you are agreeing with the straight and cis people who deny each of our identities regularly. if you don’t support medical gatekeeping, then believing people’s self-reported identities is your only option.

you can not pick which identities are real and which should be subject to medical scrutiny and examination. you do not have that right. you either believe us or abuse us.

hey quick q idk if it’s been answered already but have aros & aces historically been a part of the lgbt community? like whats the history? idk im just seein all this ace discourse & idk where to stand. ty!

makingqueerhistory:

All right, my answer may be long because I think it is important to make sure we have a nuanced discussion around this.

The answer to this question is not a clear one. There are instances where asexual and aromantic people have been excluded from the queer community, but there are also instances where they have been included.

The problem with saying “Aces have always been a part of the queer community” or “Aces have never been a part of the queer community” is that you will be wrong either way.

Asexual and aromantic people have historically had to face exclusion from the queer community, and they still do today. They have also historically been a part of the queer community (I will always point people to The Golden Orchid because I think it is one of the most clear examples of asexual and aromantic inclusion in the queer community).

So to have this discussion in a clear and healthy way we need to first divorce ourselves of the idea that the queer community is some monolithic thing.

We have always had division; and in every place and in every time period the queer community is different. Queer people haven’t generally been able to organize on a global scale, so there is no truth of the queer community that is true everywhere and in every time.

The internet has given us an advantage in that we can have discussions internationally within the queer community, which has never happened before to the scale it is happening today. Which makes right now a turning point for the queer community.

The decisions we make today will be recorded in the history books of tomorrow. So it is time for us all to decide what kind of community we want to be.

Throughout history we have examples of when our community has been exclusive and catered only to a select few identities, and we have examples of the opposite happening. We have examples of people coming together to fight for the rights and the safety of not only people who share their exact struggle but for people who face a whole different set of obstacles. And it is time for us all to decide what type of people we want to be remembered as.

The very word queer is vague which many people now find issue with but I think is a distinct advantage. It does not narrow our community down to a series of labels we care about.

And if I have learned anything from my ongoing study of queer history, it is that how society has treated different sexual and gender identities has changed throughout time. And to assume that will stop with us seems pretty arrogant.

There have been times when being gay has been accepted in certain societies. But because of these times does that mean that gay people don’t deserve a place in the queer community? Of course not.

I fully believe there have been times when asexual and/or aromantic people have been fully accepted in society at certain points. But now is not that time. So we include them. We fight for them because right now that is what is needed.

I love the queer community. For all it’s many flaws I have faith in it. One of the reasons I love it is because of how inclusive we have the power to be.

I cannot make this decision for anyone else. But as someone who studies queer history, I can say that while the past can give us much, it is ultimately the present and the future we must make our decisions for.

dirtyalloinclusionist:

datcourse:

discourseful:

discoursehq:

this sure is……..something

wh,,,at

cishets literally jump at the chance to use q*eer lmfao

Nah, it’s just that aphobes are so quick to call anyone they don’t like a cishet.

Like. Y’all. It literally took me FIVE FUCKING SECONDS to look up his twitter and these are the FIRST TWO THINGS YOU SEE:

But nah, he’s a cishet because he dared to use the word queer in a tweet.

Good fucking job.

i don’t want to be dismissive of everyone’s personal experiences and contexts but. Queers use the word queer. i have no idea how this could shock someone but there we go anyway

yan6:

People on this site literally fighting people about asexual headcanons with, like, detailed lists of why they can’t possibly be ace because they looked at this one character and how even the thought of said character being ace is bad for people who share ANY characteristic with this character (gay/fat/neurodivergent/etc.)

Like, they’re fictional characters and headcanons, Karen, go outside and drink your puddle water, they don’t affect you, let people have fun

Me: cis straight people make me feel uncomfortable, tbh.
An exclusionist, crawling onto my porch: yes, my fellow LGBTPN, i too hate the cishets! that is why we must defen–
Me, swinging a broom wildly in their direction: SHOO! OUT! AWAY!!

i’m still getting traffic from this post; the one where i pointed out S/G//A is leading people to conversion therapy sites, being shared by exclusionists because it’s hilarious that i’m relying on google and not proper databases. however, i’ve gotten no responses to my reply that closeted kids use google and aren’t getting sex ed from college databases, because exclusionists don’t have any snappy comebacks to that one lmao

anyway if you’re reading this because you clicked through from an aphobe i probably hate everything you stand for. hatefollowing me gets you blocked.