You all legit say shit like “aces abusing through forcefully withholding sex” or “aros deceiving you into loving them by being nice to you”..
Somehow you all managed to take all this info together and call inclusionists for incels. Instead of literally describing yourself as incels.
Like this is literally saying you’re involuntarily celibate and being friendzoned, and that people are entitled to having dates or sex with others.
You all don’t get to jokingly call others incels, when you all literally talking with such entitlement about others’ sexualities and dating life.
theyre all suddenly believing again in things like “friendzone” or “leading people on so now you owe them affection/sexual things” and i cant believe they dont realize that
I’d typically call this sort of stuff for regressive, or say it’s going full circle… But you know what this is?
It’s giving in to anti-feminist rhetoric, these people are literally saying the shit people say about women.
Only this time targeted at aromantic and asexual people, a group where if you look at a lot of surveys, also disproportionately seem to be made up of women too.
It’s frankly a mess, but I kind of wish people saw it as the mess it is… It’s a mess that normalises really shitty attitudes. People are saying things to aro/ace people, that they’d not say to many other groups.
And all of this shit is stuff I thought we were past, it was established within sj-circles years ago… But now we’re seeing it loosen up, thanks to how people on tumblr are normalising this bullshit, using the “correct wording” to get away with saying shit we have been rejecting for years.
It’s so surreal to me we haven’t gone away from this, when it’s clearly part of why we’ve been rejecting MRAs now for years. Because people are trying to gain autonomy over others’ bodies.
Now we’re suddenly bending views on guilt-tripping and consent, and how we talk of sex and romance, all to essentially regress to giving validity to the friendzone.
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I really can’t fuck with people who don’t see nothing wrong in their actions, it’s 2018 bitch learn how to self reflect damn
pick your battles. pick… pick fewer battles than that. put some battles back. that’s too many
*Picks up another battle while maintaining eye contact* Make me
teaching biology to gen z kids: menstruation is when the uterus says “this bitch empty” and “yeets” the endometrium out of the body
if you’re transfem be careful about gaypeachs. tw for transmisogyny
(their former urls are birobotic, aromasterchief, transkrem, bimonsters, zemyatta and robotcas)
don’t go and harass them, this is just a warning to people they’ve given off a lot of red flags and generally dismissed transmisogyny
- made a post trying to reappropriate the idea of terfs to create the spectre of “Terfs 2.0″: “women and fem aligned NBs” who support trans women but are oppressive to trans men and masc NBs.
- convinced that any transmisoginistic reading of their post was putting words in their mouth even after they admitted their post was vague and unclear
- blocked me and @anarchotransfem and claimed they were being abusive, again just for asking them to clarify the meaning in their poorly worded post
- whatever the hell happened in this reply they sent immediately after they blocked me, claiming that transfems being concerned about transmisogyny in their post was a purposeful attack on their mental health, that this was a concerted effort to gang up on them. it’s basically textbook “how not to react” after people tell you that you’ve fucked up.
- generally going out of their way to absolve themself of any possible
transmisogyny in their post, acting as if any concern of
transmisogyny on their part is us being manipulative, oversensitive and out to
get them. which is, surprise, transmisogyny.
- even after the original post got clarified, they seem to genuinely think fem aligned NBs are oppressing masc aligned NBs on the basis of masculine alignment, which is, convoluted to say the least
- and from their archives, this post about how trans men actually can’t have male privilege
- a second post saying trans men can not have male privilege
- another post where they’re doing the same thing, as well as acting like they’re an expert on transmisogyny
- this post where they define misogyny as the oppression of dfab people
while a lot of their posts about how trans men’s access to male privilege is highly conditional is stuff i agree with, it does start to give a bad impression when coupled with; their dismissal of transmisogyny, their near constant assertion that cis women are their main oppressor on the basis of gender (cis women specifically rather than cis people generally), and their assertions that cis women and trans men have identical experiences of misogyny. basically, it starts to look like the common truscum assertion that trans masc people can’t possibly hold power over trans women (and the corollary, that trans women who talk about transmisogyny are misandrists). they outright claim “trans people have no power” in reference to trans men having no social power for being men.
tbh i don’t think they’re even aware that what they’re saying could have these implications, and by no means do i think they’re actually a truscum or absorbing any truscum rhetoric. please don’t harass them, this is just to get the word out to other people not to interact with them concerning transmisogyny, because it looks pretty futile and i don’t want any more transfems to have to deal with their childlike behavior.
the rest of this horrible interaction and related screenshots under the cut
This is…..some pretty gross accusations and more than one of your “receipts” is presented with a misleading description that shows you have a personal, petty agenda against this person. Seems like you’re mad they blocked you and that you didn’t understand them, and scrolling their blog there are a lot of explanations that say the opposite things of what you’re implying about them. Idk, this callout seems iffy and less about “warnings” than being vindictive to me
I would say that it is indeed a personal agenda! As personal preservation from a person that keeps on talking over transfems, and reinforces trans men’s male entitlement would be hard to not take personally!
And yeah like not all of these are straight up bigoted things.
But I am highly concerned with how this person keeps on writing really vague shit and trying to make misogyny about men with such desperation.
Like, I’d highly just advice people to stay away from this person instead of trying to excuse them, because this person is clearly in some kind of echo chamber of transmasc self-victimisation, and latches on to the “you all are using radfem rhetoric!” argument while using radfem rhetorics.
like look at this person’s blog. they’re clearly trying to shape trans men as having authority on misogyny. and i don’t know about you, but when they keep on insisting on crypto-radfem rhetorical use, they really should be analysing how their words and actions might be do similar things when they pull the same shit terfs do!
if you say misogyny is about trans men, maybe you should analyse what that says about trans women. how do trans women not have male privilege within a frame where trans men and all dfab people are targets of misogyny, and should be the authority of it.
this all isn’t an attack jfc. it’s concern. because this person is making no effort to look at their own words and how their words carry implications.. even when multiple transfems independently go “hey.. what the fuck.. have you maybe thought that the rhetorics you’re spreading carries a transmisogynistic undertone”.
Please stop saying “transfem” when you mean trans women, for frik’s sake
Hi I’m transfeminine and affected by transmisogyny but also not a trans woman
I got blocked for this reply omfg
hey hang on. my op was literally about gaypeachs refusing to address transmisogyny that impacts nonbinaries. literally their rhetoric was specifically aimed at ‘fem nbs’ with no regard for transmisogyny or power dynamics. limiting the subject to binary trans women would just make my post incomprehensible, and is basically the same as the problem this post was meant to address; erasure of transmisogyny aimed at non-women/non-binaries. gross.
cool fact for people who have a problem with looting:
cops in america are legally allowed to take people’s property (including large sums of money) purely because they feel like it. it’s called civil forfeiture and there are literally thousands of cases of pigs taking people’s property. that is looting.
i watched this happen to my roommate after the cops kicked our doors in at 6 AM on a weekday for a no-knock raid that, surprise surprise, didn’t turn out anything. they opened his wallet in front of him, took out about $300 and told him that since they had no record of where it came from on premises, that they’d have to take it from him. they took this man’s rent money right in front of him while he was in cuffs and told him “too bad”.
there was also a friend’s car in our drive way that had broken down so they left it over night. the doors were locked and the windows were up, and since the owner wasn’t there, they decided it’d be cool to just bust in all the windows to perform another fruitless search.
In Philly it’s been a HUGE and MASSIVE problem with cops taking people’s bank accounts, cars, electronics and pretty much anything worth any amount of money under a law that lets the DA seize property they think is related to a crime. “Related’ is a vague term though. They once forced a women and her grandchildren out of her home to sell it at auction because her son was found by police with $20 worth of weed.
(Depending on the property in question it can go under Civil Property Seizure or Seize and Seal, they’re not the same law but they work the same)
They don’t have to prove it’s related to a crime before or after, and even if the person suspected of the crime is cleared at questioning or acquitted at trial, you have to go through a MONTHS long process of court appearances (you can’t miss one or be late or you lose, no rescheduling) in hopes that they MIGHT get their stuff back. Most don’t.
Most people don’t think it’s worth the expense of days missed at work and a lawyer to get back a couple hundred dollars or whatever else the police stole. The city makes MILLIONS of dollars each year off this, around $6-10 (The DA doesn’t provide figures)
but tell me more about “good cops.”
because i hate the civil forfeiture system, the NYPD civil forfeiture system keeps no tally of its forfeitures because it would crash their system to compute it, and there may be only one backup of the whole system. a system that seized (an assumed) $68 million in property just in 2013.
name a more cursed Discourse than: don’t use (umbrella term of people affected by a thing) when you mean (specific term that doesn’t include everyone you’re talking about)
bonus: accusations of erasure when you’re relying on erasure to make that statement
bonus bonus: the actual worst is likening inclusive terms to some kind of plot. like “wlw is destroying lesbians”
me: oh damn she cute, imma follow her and never talk to her.
clitcheese
mentioned you on a post “if you’re transfem be careful about gaypeachs. tw for transmisogyny”@eyeshadow2600fm it’s pretty standard shorthand to refer to trans women and nonbinary people who experience transmisogyny. it’s meant to be about gender experience and i’ve never seen it intended to imply any of us have to be feminine but if you have a better word i’m all ears
‘fem’ literally means feminine, and I already know people who see this to be exclusionary
I am not a dictionary and I’m not an inventor of words, I’m just saying this isn’t good
cool, that’s entirely unhelpful. i’m not misgendering nonbinary people because you’ve read into a word
cop: has a wide range of professions to choose from including cake decorator at ralph’s, decides to go with the one where you hunt people down with guns
cop: i’m just doing what i’m told. i’m just doing my job. this is out of my hands. there is literally nothing else i can do. this is my profession. i was born a cop
