Tag: They’re still men though

lonaw:

clitcheese:

clitcheese:

“traps aren’t trans women, they’re effeminate gay dudes who crossdress to deceive and fuck straight guys”
ok but you’ve, just decided to counter an accusation of transphobia with “checkmate, i’m a huge transphobe AND homophobe. weren’t expecting that one hey?”. like you really thought your knowledge of fetish anime would make you look Less Gross

continually surprised how chasers think they’re getting away with: “my fetish isn’t trans women, my fetish is just identical in every way to trans women except closeted, or traumatised to staying in the closet and who doesn’t have the language or confidence to ask to be respected. also a cartoon usually.”

@clitcheese
     Traps (normally for the architype anyway ) are not trans, they are in fact Male biologically, and they identify as male as far as I know. They are simply gender roll nonconforming. Thus they are CIS and thus not identical to trans women. I think calling a cis man in a dress trying to trick men into sex trans is actually kind of degrading to trans women, but IDK that just IMO.

     
Of course this all ignores the high improbability of a trans woman
trying to deceive a straight man into having sex. Cause you know….
they know that they NORMALLY END UP DEAD OR BEATEN IF THEY DO THAT AND AS SUCH IT IS EXCEEDING DANGEROUS TO DO AS SUCH. Not to mention it’s really kinda shitty to deceive someone like that and trans people aren’t psychopaths who would do shit like that.

     Another matter is that the fantasy of fucking a dude in a dress is…. well… pretty damn gay. They are still a dude after all and as a “straight” guy the moment the dick pops out you SHOULD theoretically be out the door and down the street. I think it bespeaks to sort of ingrained homophobia that has caused a rejection of a part of the self. The truth in such individuals I theorizes is that they are gay(or bi) and simply can’t reconcile that with there oppressive notions of manliness they have grown up with; thus they need to dress up the target of there desires as feminine to make it acceptable to there “manhood” or otherwise let go there toxic masculinity(and finally let the healing begin).

once more this is all IMO and I love hearing feedback and pointers and other points of views especially from people with a pedigree on the subject like you.

traps aren’t real. i can’t argue with you on the basis that this is a real thing that exists in real life. it’s a fetish label. you’re looking at a poorly done caricature of the oldest stereotypes of trans women and saying “see this isn’t transmisogyny, the real transmisogyny would be to think this has something to do with trans women” when it’s very clearly what cis people think of us.

and again, read the op again. very carefully. like it predicted, you’re trying to have an argument over wether this is a harmful stereotype of gay men as rapists, or trans women as rapists. like do you hear yourself? you’re still relying on homophobia in your post trying to defend a stereotype. let it go