Tag: transmisogyny

if you’re transfem be careful about gaypeachs. tw for transmisogyny

(their former urls are birobotic, aromasterchief, transkrem, bimonsters, zemyatta and robotcas)

don’t go and harass them, this is just a warning to people they’ve given off a lot of red flags and generally dismissed transmisogyny

  • made a post trying to reappropriate the idea of terfs to create the spectre of “Terfs 2.0″: “women and fem aligned NBs” who support trans women but are oppressive to trans men and masc NBs.
  • convinced that any transmisoginistic reading of their post was putting words in their mouth even after they admitted their post was vague and unclear
  • blocked me and @anarchotransfem and claimed they were being abusive, again just for asking them to clarify the meaning in their poorly worded post
  • whatever the hell happened in this reply they sent immediately after they blocked me, claiming that transfems being concerned about transmisogyny in their post was a purposeful attack on their mental health, that this was a concerted effort to gang up on them. it’s basically textbook “how not to react” after people tell you that you’ve fucked up.
  • generally going out of their way to absolve themself of any possible
    transmisogyny in their post    , acting as if any concern of
    transmisogyny on their part is us being manipulative, oversensitive and out to
    get them. which is, surprise, transmisogyny.

while a lot of their posts about how trans men’s access to male privilege is highly conditional is stuff i agree with, it does start to give a bad impression when coupled with; their dismissal of transmisogyny, their near constant assertion that cis women are their main oppressor on the basis of gender (cis women specifically rather than cis people generally), and their assertions that cis women and trans men have identical experiences of misogyny. basically, it starts to look like the common truscum assertion that trans masc people can’t possibly hold power over trans women (and the corollary, that trans women who talk about transmisogyny are misandrists). they outright claim “trans people have no power” in reference to trans men having no social power for being men.

tbh i don’t think they’re even aware that what they’re saying could have these implications, and by no means do i think they’re actually a truscum or absorbing any truscum rhetoric. please don’t harass them, this is just to get the word out to other people not to interact with them concerning transmisogyny, because it looks pretty futile and i don’t want any more transfems to have to deal with their childlike behavior.

the rest of this horrible interaction and related screenshots under the cut

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alyesque:

alyesque:

Calling trans women “hysteric” over their concerns with transmisogyny is a surprisingly misogynistic move against us, coming from someone who thinks we are not subject to misogyny

Consider: if your politics manifests in labeling their women with a pathologized term which has historically been used to justify locking up women who complain about their situation in society… maybe you’re not a feminist.

fattyatomicmutant:

The only reason terfs try to insist on things like male socialization and biology is they want to appear to people that their hate and disgust is justified, and hopefully they use these talking points to drag people along by inciting on their emotions and the like.

Funny thing tho: you apply actual feminism to each point and it falls flat.

Male socialization? Baloney, because there’s lots of examples of kids growing up under single moms with varying degrees of gender representation.

Biology? DNA may be a blueprint for morphology to some degree, but nature is far too weird to apply just two things to describe everything.

TERFs also tend to believe “male socialisation” is fixed at birth, effectively that babies assigned male are born abusive. under this model the patriarchy isn’t even a set of ideas or a choice to uphold a broken system, it becomes an inbuilt feature of the human race that can’t ever be defeated. which is terrifying.

It flies in the face of every other psychological theory of socialisation, has never been peer reviewed or considered as actual science. and the obvious: babies don’t seem to even have thoughts until a few weeks after birth, and the system of gender that babies are immersed in takes a lot of time to learn.

it’s really nothing but recycling the brain sex argument. I’ve never heard of a radfem who can admit that socialisation could ever be malleable, or even fixed at a certain age after birth because that might mean admitting the existence of trans people who realise they’re trans in early childhood. I haven’t even seen radfems consider the thought that people could receive a different socialisation in different cultures with different ideas if gender. they’re effectively claiming the gender framework in the western world is a timeless universal constant, and at this point it’s interchangeable with their “the Patriarchy is found on the Y chromosome” theory.

lisaquestions:

So there was this study in which adults were shown a crying baby. Those who were told the baby was a boy interpreted the baby’s emotion as anger. Those who were told the baby was a girl interpreted the baby’s emotion as being upset.

Confirmation bias is when people only acknowledge information that supports their biases, or twists information that does not into information that does.

So whenever someone says “trans women are acting according to male socialization” or characterizes anything a trans woman does as being “male” keep that bit about the babies in mind, and confirmation bias.

For some people trans women can do literally anything and it is perceived as somehow stemming from a fictional essential ~maleness~.

I recall snowflakeespecial, for example, linking two webcomics. One was of a cis woman celebrating her breasts, and one was of a trans woman celebrating her breasts. These comics were very similar in presentation and both said basically the same thing. However, snowflakeespecial claimed that the two strips were obviously completely different because the one made by a cis woman was genuine, whereas the one made by a trans woman was evidence of autogynephilia.

This is also reflected when cis people know a woman is trans, they will interpret any behavior, any physical feature, anything to support the contention that said woman is obviously trans, even if they had no idea even moments before.

In short, the game is rigged. When TWERFs, when truscum, when trans women collaborators pull this shit, they’re not engaging honestly. They’re engaging in terms of “Trans women are men. Therefore everything they do is indicative of being men.”

This is also why they lose their shit when trans women refuse to comply with their perceptions, as happened last night.

The basic rule is, however, that trans women are not allowed to be authorities on our own experiences. Everything we say is debatable and simply being a trans woman makes one discreditable. Any attempt to step outside the very narrow, confining boxes that others have decided describe us is seen as an act of aggression.

For that matter, any attempt to assert boundaries is seen as an act of aggression. 

the-transfeminine-mystique:

tariqah:

tariqah:

Remember when TERF extraordinaire Sheila Jefferys said that the people she agrees with the most in reference to trans people are conservatives🤔

Now one of the things I find puzzling about it is that, when I look at the House of Lords debate on this legislation, those I agree with most are the radical right. Particularly the person I find that I agree with most, in here, and I’m not sure he will be pleased to find this, is Norman Tebbitt… Tebbitt also says that the savage mutilation of transgenderism, we would say if it was taking place in other cultures apart from the culture of Britain, was a harmful cultural practice, and how come we’re not recognizing that in the British Isles. So he makes all of these arguments from the radical right, which is quite embarrassing to me, but I have to say, so called progressive and left people are not recognizing the human rights violations of transgenderism or how crazy the legislation is.

-Sheila Jeffreys in the 2006, Andrea Dworkin Commemorative Conference. Also please do note that DWORKIN HERSELF was supportive of trans people and wrote that government should support trans people and provide medical help in transitioning and that trans women should be intergrated into women’s communities 🤔🤔🤔🤔

i think i just saw a blog i followed run by a genderqueer person get sucked into terf shit?

their archive had a bunch of antiterf posts pretty solidly debunking the myth that trans women transition to fucking assault cis lesbians, and a whole bunch of good trans pos posts but more recent cotton cieling shit reblogged by terfs. particularly nasty ones blogs like, fucking dedicated to the idea that all trans women transition to bget away with rape, and all trans men are guinea pigs for sadistic doctors who are doing it bc they hate women? convinced that the government is trying to forcibly transition women w hormonal disorders or something?  like buddy ur blog says ur genderqueer how are u falling for this shit?

how do people get convinced terfs are going to let them into their club it’s like 100% based on exclusion and gaslighting people into thinking their own gender was forced onto them by the medical industry or whatever. how does this happen. who looks at a blog dedicated to gaslighting people exactly like u and think, hey this looks lgit? this looks like something i should check out just to be fair u know? give them a chance

or like who even experiences being genderqueer thing and thinks, yeah Doctors love letting ppl transition! no jumping through hoops here! doctors just line up to give people like me hrt! society loves me! my identity isn’t for myself, it’s part of a plot to either erase or assualt cis women! this is either like someone nonbinary who really has it out for trans women, or a form of self harm tbh

I’m currently training with the LAPD for criminal profiling and you actually sound like a serial killer when you talk about your so-called necrophilia kink. Taking people apart, c’mon man.

patrexes:

larpsandtherealgirl:

radfemwonderwoman:

patrexes:

lmao whatever dude i watch criminal minds too

this is the shit im talking about

On average, people with paraphilias have 4.8 of them… if he’s already a necrophilic tranny, what other violence against women is this pornsick freak fetishizing?

i’m into vivisection & anthropophagy. i’ve been… pretty upfront about this. also i’m a sub so you can chill out, according to your worldview i’m fantasizing about misandristic violence

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