http://cardozzza.tumblr.com/post/162364426138/caseydickdanger-kindergraph-kindergraph-hey

this post is hilarious considering cardozzza was one of the diehard defenders of discourseprincessa, who was a cis woman pretending to be an intersex trans woman to get away with attacking people

this shitwipe was constantly telling inclusionist trans women to die and making other violent remarks lol which many trans women were calling out lol

and on top of that also claimed to be a “messianic” jewish person which many jewish people have said time and time again is not a thing and is antisemitic as fuck

and don’t come at me with that “but we were manipulated! stop hanging this over our heads!” because even if she wasn’t lying about who she was she was still claiming to be a “messianic” jewish person and threatening trans women!!

and that shit’s not suddenly unacceptable only because she turned out to be fucking cis, it was unacceptable to fucking start with!

I’m not gonna sit here and pretend this doesn’t have anything to do with the discourse and is “actually about helping people” because aphobes, cardozza included, have shown time and time again they don’t care about or will even defend when their own pull these kinds of stunts

Here’s some facts about this callout

1. aerf was not coined by them, in fact it was supposedly coined by trans women, and here’s a tweet from June 9th using it before this person did

2. this isn’t “bragging” about blocking trans women; they just remarked that they can block whoever they want after making a post about how nobody’s entitled to their creations

and 3. it is absolutely correct that many trans women have expressed about how aphobes borrow TERF tactics and that it makes them feel afraid and unsafe, especially considering how often aphobes agree with TERFs and think that’s fucking fine

let alone the amount of cis people using “cishet” and saying shit like “saying cis people don’t have a say in transphobia is homophobic”, let alone the amount of people who are super willing to misgender nonbinary people and call us “basically (wo)men” to prove that sga is the main and most important aspect of being LGBT+, let alone their fucking constant intersexism

(this reblog explains it more eloquently)

and there’s a damned lot of people on this post that are completely ignoring all the ableist and misogynistic slurs which btw is an incredibly fucking common thing aphobes have been doing lol

so again this all smells very strongly of being exactly about ace discourse

honestly, y’all need to stop listening to only the trans women and trans people that you personally like lol

a good reply:

tatterdemalionamberite said: I’m so fucking exhausted and enraged that this is going to be (is already being) used as a bludgeon against the trans women whose perspective Nora was boosting in the first place. Oh, and OP isn’t a trans woman either as far as I can tell, they just decided they’re an arbiter of what counts as transmisogyny, now that they can use that against a group of people including trans women that they don’t agree with.

all this said i do think i’m going to block anyone using AERF because it’s painfully incorrect: exclusionists aren’t even tangentially related to any brand of feminism, they’re not radical, and the E in TERF and SWERF was meant to stand for exterminationist instead of exclusionist. AERF has also turned actual trans women calling out transphobic exclusionists into a joke

christawolf:

adrianianam:

What’s with this rhetoric that “it’s always just been LGBT” that’s cropping up?

I’ve seen “LGB” and “LG” with my own damn eyes, I remember the goddamn bi-discourse that still goddamn crops up, I remember reading old articles about whether or not the coalition should include them, you’re trying to convince me that I just hallucinated that shit? And they have the gall to claim I’M the one doing historical revisionism here?

More to the point, how the hell do you think a full coalition can just spring up out of the ground fully formed like that before the concept of Bisexuality as a distinct identity was even codified? Anyone who claims otherwise are either misled or actively lying about the issue to preserve the illusion that LGBT is this immutable concept that emerged from the collective subconscious fully formed and it disregards all the hard work it took people to build the coalition into what it is currently. It’s not only historically inaccurate, that’s just plain not how shit works.

Like that’s right up there with “they don’t belong because they aren’t inherently LGBT” as if it isn’t an artificial coalition. Weak-ass arguments intended to sidestep the ACTUAL matter at hand.

Wasn’t it earlier this year they were talking about dropping the T? Again?!

They wanna Drop the T because they think Republicans are using our Identity Politics as ammunition against the Oberfell thing or something.

They stand on the Shoulders of Marsha P. Johnson to get this far only for them to cut us off from the larger community when we ask for Help. We ‘Inconvenience’ them and they cut us off. And they white wash away the Footprints they made on our shoulders.

I keep seeing this ridiculous idea that LGBT as an acronym sprung up because of Stonewall, so that anyone who says the T wasn’t always there can be accused of erasing the trans women at the event. it’s 3 separate decades of history they’re compressing into a soundbite.

transgirlnausicaa:

i zeriously don’t give a shit if you’re lesbian and say that you’re penis-repulsed or that you never want to have penetrative sex like obviously these are very very personal things and you have every right to dictate where your personal limits lie with regards to intimacy and sex.

like for REAL there are trans women who are penis-repulsed, who don’t want their own penis touched sexually at all (due to dysphoria or otherwise), who don’t want to have sex at all, who don’t want to have penetrative sex (receiving or giving), And of course there are also trans women who DO want all of these things…
(And there are trans women with a penis who are unable to penetrate or maintain an erection due to HRT or orchiectomy or otherwise, And there are trans women With A Fully Functioning Vagina That Is Physically Indistinguishable From An Average Cis Woman’s Vagina, but i digress…)

but the PROBLEM lies in the fact that people view trans women as a monolith! The problem lies in the fact that people assume that trans women are all just the same as the stereotype that you have built up in your minds! The stereotype of trans women as: a deceptive predatory sexually voracious straight man who will do anything to have sex with cis lesbians!

It’s not a problem for you to have your personal boundaries regarding intimacy and sex! What is a problem is when you have a malicious ideology against trans women and place your personal boundaries into this rubric. There is nothing forcing you to do that. There is nothing forcing you to apply malicious misinformation and stereotypes to trans women. There is nothing forcing you to call transgender women male, or men, or trannies, or transmale, or male-to-trans, or transwomen, (as a distinct and separate category from “Real” cis women!!) it is cruel and bigoted and transmisogynist for you to do these things.

However I will never concede the fact that stereotypes influence how you perceive people! And as a corollary to this fact, I can certainly say that there is transmisogyny among cis people. There IS a major phenomenon of straight men, lesbians, and bi/pan people, of any gender, viewing trans women as disgusting and ugly and undateable and To Be Avoided DUE TO STEREOTYPES AGAINST TRANS WOMEN.

This is not simply an issue that has regards to dating, obviously, it is something that informs all social interactions that other people have with trans women.

And, before you twefs jump in with “not being dated isn’t oppression!” I am going to pre-empt you and state that this is a similar issue to how straight women are homophobic towards bisexual men and avoid them and refrain from socializing with them or dating them, this is a similar issue to how white women and men are racist towards black men and avoid them and refrain from socializing with them or dating them.
Not equating these issues, just pointing out that social avoidance IS a part of interpersonal oppression against marginalized groups.

My position is that stereotypes and social norms inform behavior towards trans women and you have to take responsibility for how your bigoted rhetoric impacts the people it’s leveled against.

Bi and straight radfems are allllllways talking about how disgusting trans women are and it generally seems that they don’t even have any trans women as friends let alone date them, and I can’t help but beg the question: You don’t actually truly view us as men, do you? In fact, to you, we must be something different than men because you treat us terribly different than you treat men. You treat us much worse than you treat men, which is a major failure of your supposedly self-identified man-hating agenda. Get good, frankly.

Another pre-emptive statement before someone makes an ugly and unnecessary comment: I’m engaged and have been monogamous for 7 years so this is literally not a weird ideological quest for romantic contact for me, regardless of how so-called radical feminists might twist my words.

“trans people have existed the entire time” yo i studied greek and roman literature in college and this dude Lucian (2nd century CE) wrote a piece called Dialogue of the Courtesans and one chapter called “The Lesbians” (unfortunately misnamed) has a courtesan named Leaina tell about a lover she had named Megilla who was AFAB but preferred to be called Megillus and presented himself as male and insisted in very detailed dialogue he was male in every way except for his birth, check it out

support-our-trans-sisters:

thank you! it’s seriously ridiculous how terfs think trans people just popped up in the sixties?? like?? talk about not knowing your own history

there’s also the Cult of Cybele, an important religion to the Roman empire that had a priestess-hood made up of trans women. Catallus, a very famous latin author, wrote about their mythology, where apparently dysphoria is treated as a sacred calling from the goddess. Here’s my fave translation, it doesn’t add in any unnecessary misgendering that wasn’t there in latin, because apparently translators feel the need to do that sometimes. TW for descriptions of intense dysphoria, and a gorey description of ancient bottom surgery.

a good rule of thumb is that if you see the word ‘eunuch’ in a history book, that’s usually a reference to trans women that’s been lost in time thanks to the rise of Christianity.

anyone i see reblogging this post is getting blocked and i know it’s about trans men but it’s clearly fucking asserting that being transfem is the better option when dealing with cis people

like. i am all for trans men talking about the ‘smol precious child’ thing but it takes about 0.001 fucking seconds of thinking about it to realise that people doing this tend to also treat trans women the opposite. like we’re gigantic ogres.

the YASS QUEEN, SLAY bullshit we get isn’t any better either; we’re treated as fucking spectacles. people can’t process that our daily lives aren’t a drag performance for all to gawk at. just please fucking think about what you’re saying about trans women before you post omg

Why the hell shouldn’t we kick out terfs? They want trans women dead. By keeping them in your prioritizing the safety of cis people to trans women, I don’t care if they’re lgbpa. Kick terfs out of lgbt+ places

litwiqueer:

queerghostt:

asculan:

asculan:

maxiesatanofficial:

thepettyjewslimah:

the-ace-community:

because TERFs are often lesbians. like. i knwo they’re terrible and i know they want people dead. but TERFs have every right to lgbt resources because they’re still lgbt. it’s fucking terrible i know. BUT the entire point of the LGBT is to fuckign protect these people. like….i hate TERFs just as much as you do. but if they need an LGBT shelter, or a place to go to fucking escape an abusive parent or just sex-ed or some other important LGBT specific resource, we’re can’t just turn them away. it’s like a death sentence for a lot of people. besides, we should spend our time trying to educate them and change their mindset instead of going. WELP. they’re a lost cause. fuck them. you’d rather let them keep thinking these terrible harmful transphobic thoughts then try to invite them in and educate them? that makes sense.

this is a bad comparison. of course we’re kicking terfs out of our spaces. they’re not entitled to any lgbt resources, unless you want trans, bi, and non white people to feel unsafe in those spaces? teach terfs using isolation and leave them to fester on their own. it’s not our job to educate a hate group. don’t let a fox into a club for rabbits. the entire point of being a terf is that you have read information and you’ve embraced a specific ideology advocating death for all trans women. are we letting in tradfems, too, if they’re gay?

today in the discourse: aroaces will Steal Our Nonrenewable Gay Resources, but we have to let TERFs into the LGBT community becaus Some Of Them Are Gay .( Please Won’t You Think Of The Lesbians Who Hate Trans Women Guys .( .( .( They Just Need To Be Educated!!! .( .( .( .( .( .(

“Why can’t we just be nice to violent transmisogynists who actively work to exterminate trans women? :(”

OP, you’re a transmisogynist, and you are literally calling to violently drive trans women from LGBT+ spaces. Fuck off.

OP is literally a fucking cis gay lecturing trans women on why we should welcome our murderers into our spaces are you fucking shitting me

Always remember this.

it’s not trans peoples’ job to fucking educate cis people on Not Wanting To Kill Trans People like jfc

@lilycourse here’s actual terf shit lol

yall-aphobes-need-to-stop:

clitcheese:

callout post for @yall-aphobes-need-to-stop, asserting that trans men should be allowed to ID as lesbians. this is transphobic, as it’s basing who can or can’t be a lesbian on birth assignment instead of identity as a woman. this attitude is especially harmful against trans women, who are frequently told we can not ID as lesbians because of birth assignment. for context, YANTS is not a lesbian, they are nonbinary and questioning if they’re a trans man as of the time of writing.
[caption: two images from yall-aphobes-need-to-stop’s blog. First image reads: “anonymous asked: men cant be lesbians. yall-aphobes-need-to-stop answered: There are a lot of men who, before they came out as trans men, identified as female and as lesbians. Then, as their identity changed and they realized they were trans men, they held on to the lesbian label.I personally don’t think those people are invalid. Why do you, anon?”

the second image contains the same post as the first, as well as another. Anonymous asked: If you say trans men can be lesbians, that means cis men can too. YANTS answered: That’s not how it works, brah]

I still don’t understand why people are using that second image as “proof” that I’m transphobic, because when I said “that’s not how it works, brah” I was essentially saying that since cis men never ID’d as women before, and they never had any transitional phase between IDing as a lesbian woman and a straight trans man, they literally have zero reason to say they’re lesbians outside of being pure douchebags.

As I’ve said many times before, trans men calling themselves lesbians is conditional. Only in the time period where they’re getting used to their new identity after coming out, around people they have not yet cone out to about their gender identity, or from accidentally falling into old habits.

I have never once said that trans men are lesbians, nor have I said they can be lesbians. All I have ever said or meant was that there are certain situations whereupon they might end up using that word to describe themselves, and it is not inherently transphobic or lesbophobic for them to do so.

i don’t want to get into this but if something isn’t specifically related to being trans, and it would be gross for a cis man to do it. then it would also be gross for a trans man to do it, regardless of how long they do it for. and there’s no ‘transitional phase’ where misgendering yourself magically becomes a healthy thing to do.

terfmeanslesbian:

clitcheese:

i was researching to find citations for my post connecting the history of radical feminism to biphobia but then i found a terf book – Dykes loving dykes by Bev Jo, 1990, and like

ex-het privilege. Ex-het privilege. As in, if you’re a lesbian who ever mistakenly IDed as straight, you hold privilege over lesbians who never went through that. she honest to god claims that gay victims of coercive heteronormativity, hold a fucking privilege for doing so. The idea goes that lesbians can get ‘accustomed’ to straight privilege, and never truly want to give it up

tfw when you’re such a disgustingly biphobic gold star that you claim that like 90% of other lesbians oppress you

the book goes on to talk about a related oppression: most ex-hets are also femmes, who oppress butches by bringing patriarchically-constructed femininity into lesbian spaces. there’s really a chapter on Fem privilege. she writes that being butch is literally the Only way to live authentically as a lesbian.

it straight up compares femmes to the spectre of trans women ‘invading’ women’s spaces, bc femmes and trans women are both fucking slaves to the patriarchy itself apparently

this whole thing is so amazingly lesbophobic wtf? she’s saying that she’s one of the few lesbians in the whole world entirely untouched by patriarchy, and nearly every other lesbian is a fucking Fake. you can just write about your own superiority complex over other women and that’s fucking Radical apparently

i need to lie down for like a week wtf

what does any of this have to do with trans politics….why are they “”“terfs”“”

because, incidentally, the book is written by terfs? here’s her other wordpress articles, ‘trans women are men, and therefore have the mentality of rapists’ and ‘trans men are self-hating women’ lol? i’m calling her a terf because i have basic reading comprehension.

but i didn’t even talk about trans politics here. i was talking about how fundamentally warped some of your theorists are. here are some quotes, and here’s the whole book online as blog posts. Chapter 3 deals with the spectre of ex-het lesbians, part 2 of chapter 4 deals with how femme lesbians ‘recreate patriarchy’ in their gender expression, and honestly do you agree with any of this shit? have other radfems ever mentioned this book is flawed? that it only serves to make a hierarchy of lesbians? i was under the impression this woman is a pretty influential radfem, do you agree with these theories? lmao do you get that even if trans people didn’t exist, your brand of feminism would still be a reductive pile of shit?

take all the Us Versus the Horrible Transsexuals out of your theories and you’re left with just this kind of holier than thou Gold Star bullshit. honestly god help the self esteem of all the lesbians who get sucked into your politics. you’re left with this radical version of biology where men are biologically evil, where a penis has such a powerful aura that it will discount a woman’s ability to be a lesbian for her entire life. isn’t this straight up the kind of phallocentrism your ideology is meant to be against? because this system focuses on ‘never-het’ women as the most authentic lesbians, who embody a more ‘pure’ version of lesbianhood and womanhood and therefore should earn a privileged space at the centre of lesbian politics, compared to the ‘corrupted’ version of feminsm embodied by lesbians who have ever thought they were straight. “ Once a female has had the experience of being treated as and feeling like a “real woman,” she never loses it.” It’s also written in the book’s introduction also explicitly states that she considers straight and bisexual women to be interchangeable, equally privileged members of an oppressive class of ‘man-lovers’.

You see what this is right? it’s the virgin/slut dichotomy ripped straight from the patriarchy, with no alteration. Touching a dick once in your life apparently lessens the value of your perspective, immediately makes your intentions as a lesbian and even a feminist suspect. it treats patriarchy not as a set of learned ideas and behaviours, but as some kind of permanent, lifelong stain on women’s souls. the author states outright that ‘het privilege’ can never be unlearned. you get that this is lesbophobic, right? just basically, you’re erasing the sexuality of lesbians who come out later in life, outright making them into privileged oppressors? the author likens this to a fucking invasion of lesbian spaces:

’They [Lesbians who have ever dated men] also bring STDs, danger from past husbands or boyfriends stalking them, and dildos and other sado-masochistic sexual practices’,

which are, after all, based on the inequalities and pain in heterosexual/male sex.

this comes from a long passage about how ‘ex-hets’ tend to be more abusive and even less loving than Real Lesbians, caused entirely by past association with men. caused by past what kind of broken ethics system do you need to look through to think this is worth publishing? and, holy shit, i didn’t even start on ‘the patriarchal and oppressive nature of femme lesbians’ because i’ve got no idea where to start there

i can’t believe people are honestly confused about what Straight privilege is and how it’s different from being just heterosexual/hetromantic

example. on one hand, we have het trans women. these are trans women that are attracted only to men. but the Straight trans woman is about 1000 times more rare. there’s an obscene set of standards that are required for a trans woman to get even a fraction of straight privilege to work:

cis passing
completely 100% gender conforming, but careful not to approach hyperfemininity or anything that would call extra scrutiny to her presentation
almost certainly truscum. will have ‘only two genders’ memes up on her facebook
has had bottom surgery, will look down on trans people who don’t want or can’t afford bottom surgery as fucking Deviants
yes that’s right it’s quite likely that it’s completely impossible for a pre-op/non-op trans woman to have straight privilege because that shit evaporates the second anyone can connect you to even a hypothetical penis
not a condition, but the mythical Straight trans woman will generally always hold the one massively outdated and misleading theory about transness being “an intersex condition of the brain”, that an accident of birth Literally put a female brain in the wrong body.
we’re talking ‘50s sexism where Lady Brains are hardwired for nurturing, communicating and shopping. Any modern ideas on gender equality immediately disqualifies you from being the Acceptable trans woman
we’re talking, the girl asking the guy out first being an unmentionable sin. the acceptably straight trans woman has to be completely fucking passive in anything involving sex and relationships
disavowing anything related to being LGBTI or Queer, absolutely no pride in being trans
the other trans women come under the T, but not the Straight trans woman. the T is for trans people who don’t want to be completely normal
trans pride is for people who are being trans wrong. Trans is Suffering
we’re talking about people so terrifyingly determined to be Straight and Completely fucking Normal that they’ve spent their life purging anything not completely gender-conformative about their presentation, and distancing themselves from actually being associated with trans people (this isn’t meant to be a judgement statement bc this is really all for personal safety)
notice how i haven’t even mentioned sexuality yet
but yes, the straight trans woman is completely straight
Totally Vanilla straight. polyam is forbidden. even kink is suspect, because it could mark you as a deviant. the only acceptable kink is like, 50 Shades of Grey style shit where the Dude always Doms and even a blindfold is risqué
I’m out of points but feel free to reblog this and add more Straightness conditions for trans women because all the terms and conditions are frankly astounding if we could count them all up

so. while the het-attracted trans women are capable of homophobia, it’s only the Straight trans women who are capable of benefiting from homophobia by virtue of being accepted into the class of Straights. these are the kind of people who can make homophobic jokes at work to make friends with straight co-workers. the kind of people who get high-fives after verbally abusing someone openly gay or trans. the kind of trans women who, (if white) gets promotions for looking like Everyone Else

and here’s an accompanying list of how to have Straight privilege as a nonbinary person:

you literally can’t wtf
straightness as a concept literally is incompatible with nonbinary identities
It’s Adam and Eve not two gender neutral names
when the fuck have you heard a third option in ‘”marriage is between a man and a woman”
an AFAB nonbinary and a dude is a fundamentally non-straight couple
an AMAB nonbinary and a woman is a non-straight couple
an AMAB nonbinary and an AFAB nonbinary couple is, do i have to say it, not straight
whatever they call their relationship, they’re the opposite of straight
even if they’re completely cis passing
i swear to god some of you people are trying to categorise Straight people as literally any couple with one peen and one vageen
if you don’t know how to categorise sexual attraction without erasing someone’s gender identity then u should probably have a time out with all the other transphobes
i can’t believe i have to tell you this because bi people have been saying this for literally decades but: having PIV sex isn’t the thing that magically bestows straight privilege upon someone. being straight is an identity and a position of privilege and nothing as simple as an action
straight privilege doesn’t land on anyone who doesn’t identify strictly as straight, or as strictly a man or a woman
literally how did we get this far that i need to write a refresher course on this. how did we let this become controversial

basically, remember Straight isn’t just the opposite of being gay. Straight is the opposite of being gay, lesbian, bi, pan, ply, trans, nonbinary, queer, ace, aro. Straight is the opposite of every marginalised gender/sexual identity. that’s why they’re marginalised, as in pushed to the margins in favour of Straightness as the default, the one identity allowed to be normal.

“yes this post 100% includes trans people and terfs can fuck off” nice but one day could you include that in the OP? otherwise terfs and other transmisogynists very easily keep circulating it without that addition. your posts need to be built from the ground up to be hostile to terfs, not just tacked on at the end