All right, my answer may be long because I think it is important to make sure we have a nuanced discussion around this.
The answer to this question is not a clear one. There are instances where asexual and aromantic people have been excluded from the queer community, but there are also instances where they have been included.
The problem with saying “Aces have always been a part of the queer community” or “Aces have never been a part of the queer community” is that you will be wrong either way.
Asexual and aromantic people have historically had to face exclusion from the queer community, and they still do today. They have also historically been a part of the queer community (I will always point people to The Golden Orchid because I think it is one of the most clear examples of asexual and aromantic inclusion in the queer community).
So to have this discussion in a clear and healthy way we need to first divorce ourselves of the idea that the queer community is some monolithic thing.
We have always had division; and in every place and in every time period the queer community is different. Queer people haven’t generally been able to organize on a global scale, so there is no truth of the queer community that is true everywhere and in every time.
The internet has given us an advantage in that we can have discussions internationally within the queer community, which has never happened before to the scale it is happening today. Which makes right now a turning point for the queer community.
The decisions we make today will be recorded in the history books of tomorrow. So it is time for us all to decide what kind of community we want to be.
Throughout history we have examples of when our community has been exclusive and catered only to a select few identities, and we have examples of the opposite happening. We have examples of people coming together to fight for the rights and the safety of not only people who share their exact struggle but for people who face a whole different set of obstacles. And it is time for us all to decide what type of people we want to be remembered as.
The very word queer is vague which many people now find issue with but I think is a distinct advantage. It does not narrow our community down to a series of labels we care about.
And if I have learned anything from my ongoing study of queer history, it is that how society has treated different sexual and gender identities has changed throughout time. And to assume that will stop with us seems pretty arrogant.
There have been times when being gay has been accepted in certain societies. But because of these times does that mean that gay people don’t deserve a place in the queer community? Of course not.
I fully believe there have been times when asexual and/or aromantic people have been fully accepted in society at certain points. But now is not that time. So we include them. We fight for them because right now that is what is needed.
I love the queer community. For all it’s many flaws I have faith in it. One of the reasons I love it is because of how inclusive we have the power to be.
I cannot make this decision for anyone else. But as someone who studies queer history, I can say that while the past can give us much, it is ultimately the present and the future we must make our decisions for.
cishets literally jump at the chance to use q*eer lmfao
Nah, it’s just that aphobes are so quick to call anyone they don’t like a cishet.
Like. Y’all. It literally took me FIVE FUCKING SECONDS to look up his twitter and these are the FIRST TWO THINGS YOU SEE:
But nah, he’s a cishet because he dared to use the word queer in a tweet.
Good fucking job.
i don’t want to be dismissive of everyone’s personal experiences and contexts but. Queers use the word queer. i have no idea how this could shock someone but there we go anyway
the other day i saw some discourse that was like “if a lesbian is a terf she’s still a lesbian and belongs in lesbian spaces”
and i kinda had to stop and i was like…. “no. no she don’t” lmfao because like. lesbian spaces are built on love and support and safety and i can bet you there’s gonna be trans girls in that space who are not gonna be feeling any love support or safety if there’s a fucking terf there.
yes she’s a lesbian but does she deserve to be in our lesbian spaces??? fuck no and i will absolutely be the first to kick her ass to the curb. lesbian trans sisters over lesbian terfs everyday, all day.
acephobes to asexuals: anyone who calls our movement a rape apologist movement hates survivors.
acephobes to asexuals: also we and we alone decide whether you consent to sex or not. (x)
You know what’s really upsetting is that some of the points made in that post are actually pretty okay, and then you put it in the context that sleepdontvisit hates aspecs and it’s like “Ah.”
Also it’s swerfy as fuck.
denying anyone with a particular sexuality the ability to consent is to decree that you have power over their sexuality, that you are the authority as to whether they consent or not.
and even when couched in benevolent language and feigned concern, it’s still an insidious facet of rape culture being utilized by exclusionists.
and yeah, sex workers are regularly told by SWERFs that they can’t consent to sex with their clients for a variety of reasons, one of which being the lack of sexual attraction they have toward their clients.
SWERFs rob sex workers of sexual agency and the ability to consent by insisting that sexual attraction is required to consent. it’s an example of rape culture when SWERFs do it to sex workers, and it remains such when acephobes do it to asexuals.
People on this site literally fighting people about asexual headcanons with, like, detailed lists of why they can’t possibly be ace because they looked at this one character and how even the thought of said character being ace is bad for people who share ANY characteristic with this character (gay/fat/neurodivergent/etc.)
Like, they’re fictional characters and headcanons, Karen, go outside and drink your puddle water, they don’t affect you, let people have fun
Look, I know ok, but it’s good to have a back-up plan in case the political revolution fails.
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hm. that 15′ blade would likely prove to be extremely unwieldy in transporting around, and causes additional stresses on the uprights.
we can achieve better outcomes for flexibile guillotine deployment with a collapsible, interlocking guillotine, allowing for rapid set-up and relocation of guillotine units (GUs) to Conflict Termination Sites (CTSes)
You see, this is the kinda stuff Bernie is talking about; people getting involved in the political process, sharing their ideas.
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