Tag: discourse

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

“i have seen this exact same joke nearly word for word from terfs, truscum and neo nazis because this has been their favourite tactic for a decade” doesn’t equal “i’m calling you a nazi”

in fact if i’m calling you anything, it’s a gullible reactionary fuckwit who’s willing to suck up to all three groups. i think that should be obvious.

like. if i can see you, a cis person, saying you think nonbinary people are fakers on your damn blog, i don’t think it’s a stretch to say that you’ve absorbed some shit politics from somewhere

“i’m not saying you’re a neo-nazi, i’m just saying you’re a reactionary who SUCKS UP to neo-nazis and absorbed your politics from neo-nazis”

eat me dumbfuck.

nom

“gay party bottom twink hooker” –> “homo-frayromantic homo-ampheto-fraysexual demi-binary non-boy”

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

i mean, right? this checks out? btw “amphetosexual” is a neuro-sexuality i just coined, where one’s sense of sexuality is inextricably tied with being a crystal meth addict. i’ve stopped going to AA because it’s conversion therapy for me as an amphetosexual. i hope i can count on your support as i journey into mogai micro-identities.

What the actual hell is wrong with you fucks. Why the *hell* do you think conversion therapy jokes are funny in ANY context? Like. What the actual hell. -mod karkles

ummmmm it’s not a joke? twelve step recovery is conversion therapy for ampheto-sexuals like myself. why do you hate neuro-sexualities? why are you being so ableist toward neurodivergent people? do you hate addicts or what???

Dude. You’re existence is a joke. You literally exist on this blog to mock people. I don’t hate neurodivergent people. I don’t hate neuro-sexualities. I’m not the one fucking mocking them.

@diskhorsedudes gem im dyin. I got called ableist for callin out someone for mocking the idea of conversion therapy

hey gay mentally ill alcoholic here, what the actual fuck you demon? just don’t talk about mental illness ever again if this is the shit that’s going to fall out of your mouth

hey, tweaker faggot here, and no. i’m not the one tacitly admitting that “ampheto-sexual” is a valid “neuro-sexuality” lmao

yeah no? no one gives a shit about your bad joke, but you’re attacking the very fucking basic idea that someone’s mental illness can affect their sexuality. and your awful conversion therapy joke? it’s bad. you have no reason to joke about that, and​ you laughing at someone bringing up ableism? do you honest to god think you’re funny,relevant, interesting? let people call their sexuality whatever they fucking want, you don’t need to become the living embodiment of family guy humour over it

so hold up, am i allowed to call myself an ampheto-sexual or not

and, if i am, if it’s perfectly fine to define my sexuality as “meth addict,” then how is calling Crystal Meth Anonymous “conversion therapy” out of line? because, if we go by the ace community’s (wrong) definition of “conversion therapy,” then 12 step recovery is literally ableist conversion therapy for anyone who falls on the addict-sexual spectrum!

if you think i’m making fun of the idea that mental illness can inform a person’s experience of sexuality, allow me to clarify: being a meth addict, an alcoholic, (and also HIV+) are all inextricably tied to my self-conception as a gay man. but that doesn’t make me “ampheto-sexual” lmao, i’m still just gay. i’m making fun of your politics, not your experiences.

did u just say the conversion therapy joke again? that’s your response when people tell you to stop making fun of people’s sexualities? thanks south park this has been real fun

and, my politics not my experiences? do you think my politics is making microlabels because they’re cool? or do you think maybe my politics is letting people define themselves​ however they like without deserving ridicule? because no one decides how to define them but themselves? people are making microlabels when they feel they need to describe something that there isn’t a word for yet, and I don’t see what’s wrong with people fucking describing themselves. do you really think people are coming up with microlabels to piss you off or something​? i still remember how it feels to come out and hear someone tell me i must be fucking delusional, how do you forget that? how do you keep making these jokes to make people doubt their own damn sexuality and gender and still think you’re fucking revolutionary

i am asking you point-blank: do you think ampheto-sexuality is valid? and i ask this as a person who spent multiple years uninterested in sex unless methamphetamines were involved.

no, fuck off, i do not believe in your bullshit because i know what a joke looks like. this is a decade old anti-sjw tactic? I don’t think it’s a real identity because you made it as a fucking meme you dickstain. I also don’t believe in fucking circumgender, absorbagender, cancergender, cupcakegender. I don’t believe in clovergender, that “I identify as a child” bullshit the 4chan pedophiles made up. I haven’t actually ever seen the use of aesthetic orientations outside of anti-sj tumblr. The only time i’ve seen fucking -platonic used as an affix is fucking queerplatonic, which I’ve never seen used in an orientation outside of these jokes. I have seen none of these things outside of people saying “wouldn’t it be ridiculous if the MOGAI’s do this?”

My one requirement of believing something is valid is if i see a real damn human being, who isn’t an obvious troll blog, say it’s a useful term that helps them. That’s it. I haven’t seen people say any of the unreasonable shit you’re putting in their mouths. It’s really not hard to avoid smearposts and rely on real people for my info, i think you should try it

this isn’t new, it’s not fun? these exact same “do you believe in this ridiculuous thing?” catch-22s have been coming from truscum tumblr, TERF tumblr, fucking neo-nazi tumblr for years. it’s such a basic part of reactionary politics that complaining about ‘made-up’ genders and sexualities are in every thinkpiece about how millenials are ruining the world. just… get a new joke i’m so tired

so it, like, doesn’t matter to you that i very honestly considered myself an “ampheto-sexual,” in the sense that i only wanted to have sex if methamphetamine was involved, for literal years. it apparently doesn’t matter that i DO consider my addictions to be deeply-entwined with my sexual identity, inextricable even, to the point where i am half-serious when i talk about “addict-sexuality,” and you’re apparently so outta the loop that you are unaware that i am faaaar from alone in this, that there is an entire subculture of gay men and trans women that revolves around smoking/shooting meth and fucking.

but, literally because you don’t like me, you’re gonna call me a neo-nazi lmao, while on the other hand tacitly admitting that YES ampheto-sexuality is perfectly valid if it’s claimed by a person you DO like.

problem is, your side of the discourse has very few addicts (or gay men for that matter) so no one on your side has gotten around to coining a term for it. you don’t fuck, and you CLEARLY don’t party, so idk why you even give a shit about faggots like me lol

“but my joke about how much i hate mogais was actually sincere” oh im sorry do u not feel validated? 😦

also dude, im gay. are you implying i’m a homophobe or a misandrist or what. do i have to prove I don’t hate gay men by putting up with more anti-sj bullshit? is that really how it works

the joke, which continues to fly right over your head, is that if “ampheto-sexuality” had been coined by a person you LIKE as “a useful term that helps them” you would accept it without question. it’s a flaw in your fucking politics.

i mean, i do also hate mogais, don’t mistake me, but that’s not the joke.

do u feel like the term has helped you? come to terms with anything, find other amphetosexuals? are you really not getting the qualifier that i believe in sexualities that aren’t /made as jokes/?

“i have seen this exact same joke nearly word for word from terfs, truscum and neo nazis because this has been their favourite tactic for a decade” doesn’t equal “i’m calling you a nazi”

in fact if i’m calling you anything, it’s a gullible reactionary fuckwit who’s willing to suck up to all three groups. i think that should be obvious.

like. if i can see you, a cis person, saying you think nonbinary people are fakers on your damn blog, i don’t think it’s a stretch to say that you’ve absorbed some shit politics from somewhere

“gay party bottom twink hooker” –> “homo-frayromantic homo-ampheto-fraysexual demi-binary non-boy”

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

i mean, right? this checks out? btw “amphetosexual” is a neuro-sexuality i just coined, where one’s sense of sexuality is inextricably tied with being a crystal meth addict. i’ve stopped going to AA because it’s conversion therapy for me as an amphetosexual. i hope i can count on your support as i journey into mogai micro-identities.

What the actual hell is wrong with you fucks. Why the *hell* do you think conversion therapy jokes are funny in ANY context? Like. What the actual hell. -mod karkles

ummmmm it’s not a joke? twelve step recovery is conversion therapy for ampheto-sexuals like myself. why do you hate neuro-sexualities? why are you being so ableist toward neurodivergent people? do you hate addicts or what???

Dude. You’re existence is a joke. You literally exist on this blog to mock people. I don’t hate neurodivergent people. I don’t hate neuro-sexualities. I’m not the one fucking mocking them.

@diskhorsedudes gem im dyin. I got called ableist for callin out someone for mocking the idea of conversion therapy

hey gay mentally ill alcoholic here, what the actual fuck you demon? just don’t talk about mental illness ever again if this is the shit that’s going to fall out of your mouth

hey, tweaker faggot here, and no. i’m not the one tacitly admitting that “ampheto-sexual” is a valid “neuro-sexuality” lmao

yeah no? no one gives a shit about your bad joke, but you’re attacking the very fucking basic idea that someone’s mental illness can affect their sexuality. and your awful conversion therapy joke? it’s bad. you have no reason to joke about that, and​ you laughing at someone bringing up ableism? do you honest to god think you’re funny,relevant, interesting? let people call their sexuality whatever they fucking want, you don’t need to become the living embodiment of family guy humour over it

so hold up, am i allowed to call myself an ampheto-sexual or not

and, if i am, if it’s perfectly fine to define my sexuality as “meth addict,” then how is calling Crystal Meth Anonymous “conversion therapy” out of line? because, if we go by the ace community’s (wrong) definition of “conversion therapy,” then 12 step recovery is literally ableist conversion therapy for anyone who falls on the addict-sexual spectrum!

if you think i’m making fun of the idea that mental illness can inform a person’s experience of sexuality, allow me to clarify: being a meth addict, an alcoholic, (and also HIV+) are all inextricably tied to my self-conception as a gay man. but that doesn’t make me “ampheto-sexual” lmao, i’m still just gay. i’m making fun of your politics, not your experiences.

did u just say the conversion therapy joke again? that’s your response when people tell you to stop making fun of people’s sexualities? thanks south park this has been real fun

and, my politics not my experiences? do you think my politics is making microlabels because they’re cool? or do you think maybe my politics is letting people define themselves​ however they like without deserving ridicule? because no one decides how to define them but themselves? people are making microlabels when they feel they need to describe something that there isn’t a word for yet, and I don’t see what’s wrong with people fucking describing themselves. do you really think people are coming up with microlabels to piss you off or something​? i still remember how it feels to come out and hear someone tell me i must be fucking delusional, how do you forget that? how do you keep making these jokes to make people doubt their own damn sexuality and gender and still think you’re fucking revolutionary

i am asking you point-blank: do you think ampheto-sexuality is valid? and i ask this as a person who spent multiple years uninterested in sex unless methamphetamines were involved.

no, fuck off, i do not believe in your bullshit because i know what a joke looks like. this is a decade old anti-sjw tactic? I don’t think it’s a real identity because you made it as a fucking meme you dickstain. I also don’t believe in fucking circumgender, absorbagender, cancergender, cupcakegender. I don’t believe in clovergender, that “I identify as a child” bullshit the 4chan pedophiles made up. I haven’t actually ever seen the use of aesthetic orientations outside of anti-sj tumblr. The only time i’ve seen fucking -platonic used as an affix is fucking queerplatonic, which I’ve never seen used in an orientation outside of these jokes. I have seen none of these things outside of people saying “wouldn’t it be ridiculous if the MOGAI’s do this?”

My one requirement of believing something is valid is if i see a real damn human being, who isn’t an obvious troll blog, say it’s a useful term that helps them. That’s it. I haven’t seen people say any of the unreasonable shit you’re putting in their mouths. It’s really not hard to avoid smearposts and rely on real people for my info, i think you should try it

this isn’t new, it’s not fun? these exact same “do you believe in this ridiculuous thing?” catch-22s have been coming from truscum tumblr, TERF tumblr, fucking neo-nazi tumblr for years. it’s such a basic part of reactionary politics that complaining about ‘made-up’ genders and sexualities are in every thinkpiece about how millenials are ruining the world. just… get a new joke i’m so tired

so it, like, doesn’t matter to you that i very honestly considered myself an “ampheto-sexual,” in the sense that i only wanted to have sex if methamphetamine was involved, for literal years. it apparently doesn’t matter that i DO consider my addictions to be deeply-entwined with my sexual identity, inextricable even, to the point where i am half-serious when i talk about “addict-sexuality,” and you’re apparently so outta the loop that you are unaware that i am faaaar from alone in this, that there is an entire subculture of gay men and trans women that revolves around smoking/shooting meth and fucking.

but, literally because you don’t like me, you’re gonna call me a neo-nazi lmao, while on the other hand tacitly admitting that YES ampheto-sexuality is perfectly valid if it’s claimed by a person you DO like.

problem is, your side of the discourse has very few addicts (or gay men for that matter) so no one on your side has gotten around to coining a term for it. you don’t fuck, and you CLEARLY don’t party, so idk why you even give a shit about faggots like me lol

“but my joke about how much i hate mogais was actually sincere” oh im sorry do u not feel validated? 😦

also dude, im gay. are you implying i’m a homophobe or a misandrist or what. do i have to prove I don’t hate gay men by putting up with more anti-sj bullshit? is that really how it works

allois-transy:

queercicle:

officialqueer:

bihets:

im laughing someone tried to make an ‘aphobia’ subreddit for exclusionists and all three of their posts are at negative karma with all the high voted comments saying how wrong they were after they tried to self promo in the lgbt sub

it’s a nice reminder that exclusionists are in the minority among lgbt+ people and the community at large won’t tolerate their bullshit

Yeah the Reddit LGBTQ+ community is actually really open and accepting, surprisingly enough!

if they want to congregate somewhere outside tumblr, 4chan would be the place. coming from someone who’s checked them out, /LGBT/ is ALL about gatekeeping. They’re a little more loud about hating bisexuals and nonbinary/genderqueer people, and they’re openly conservative, but the differences end there.

I can confirm this. Sometimes it gets even worse than /pol/. I know that they were all over Yiannopoulos’ literal and proverbial cock a couple months back. Just a heads up that the lesbian threads there tend to be cis lesbian only / full of twerfs, and the trans lesbian threads are not for NB folks. NB folks in general aren’t welcome in any thread unless you have super serious genital dysphoria ((like myself, but I’m also intersex so I was considered an exception)) and even then it’s pretty hit and miss.

But yeah, if you’re dyadic/non-intersex and cis gay, cis lesbian or truscum (not just transmed, but like…anti-NB)) then you’ll probably feel more at home there.

“gay party bottom twink hooker” –> “homo-frayromantic homo-ampheto-fraysexual demi-binary non-boy”

sobercommunist:

terfsafeuserboxes:

diskhorsedudes:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

i mean, right? this checks out? btw “amphetosexual” is a neuro-sexuality i just coined, where one’s sense of sexuality is inextricably tied with being a crystal meth addict. i’ve stopped going to AA because it’s conversion therapy for me as an amphetosexual. i hope i can count on your support as i journey into mogai micro-identities.

What the actual hell is wrong with you fucks. Why the *hell* do you think conversion therapy jokes are funny in ANY context? Like. What the actual hell. -mod karkles

ummmmm it’s not a joke? twelve step recovery is conversion therapy for ampheto-sexuals like myself. why do you hate neuro-sexualities? why are you being so ableist toward neurodivergent people? do you hate addicts or what???

Dude. You’re existence is a joke. You literally exist on this blog to mock people. I don’t hate neurodivergent people. I don’t hate neuro-sexualities. I’m not the one fucking mocking them.

@diskhorsedudes gem im dyin. I got called ableist for callin out someone for mocking the idea of conversion therapy

Holy shit. This is wonderful #regreceipts material. This person is a giant jerk and troll. I have them blocked and that’s probably what you should do, too. This person is the worst of the worst of exclusionists and can’t be reasoned with.

This person thinks that because he’s bottom and fits some stereotypes then he’s ~basically trans~ and have a right to stick his nasty nose into our issues, don’t even bother to argue with this idiot. ~🐱

i literally think the exact opposite– i’m not trans, at all.

unless, of course, your definition of “trans” includes being “nonbinary,” and your definition of “nonbinary” is just “a person who is not completely 100% comfortable with the gender assigned to them at birth,” in which case, hi, hello, i’m a power bottom twink who doesn’t like to be referred to as “a man” and i’m here to party

cis people can stop this now, Thanks

“gay party bottom twink hooker” –> “homo-frayromantic homo-ampheto-fraysexual demi-binary non-boy”

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

sobercommunist:

clitemoji:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

kin-against-aphobes:

sobercommunist:

i mean, right? this checks out? btw “amphetosexual” is a neuro-sexuality i just coined, where one’s sense of sexuality is inextricably tied with being a crystal meth addict. i’ve stopped going to AA because it’s conversion therapy for me as an amphetosexual. i hope i can count on your support as i journey into mogai micro-identities.

What the actual hell is wrong with you fucks. Why the *hell* do you think conversion therapy jokes are funny in ANY context? Like. What the actual hell. -mod karkles

ummmmm it’s not a joke? twelve step recovery is conversion therapy for ampheto-sexuals like myself. why do you hate neuro-sexualities? why are you being so ableist toward neurodivergent people? do you hate addicts or what???

Dude. You’re existence is a joke. You literally exist on this blog to mock people. I don’t hate neurodivergent people. I don’t hate neuro-sexualities. I’m not the one fucking mocking them.

@diskhorsedudes gem im dyin. I got called ableist for callin out someone for mocking the idea of conversion therapy

hey gay mentally ill alcoholic here, what the actual fuck you demon? just don’t talk about mental illness ever again if this is the shit that’s going to fall out of your mouth

hey, tweaker faggot here, and no. i’m not the one tacitly admitting that “ampheto-sexual” is a valid “neuro-sexuality” lmao

yeah no? no one gives a shit about your bad joke, but you’re attacking the very fucking basic idea that someone’s mental illness can affect their sexuality. and your awful conversion therapy joke? it’s bad. you have no reason to joke about that, and​ you laughing at someone bringing up ableism? do you honest to god think you’re funny,relevant, interesting? let people call their sexuality whatever they fucking want, you don’t need to become the living embodiment of family guy humour over it

so hold up, am i allowed to call myself an ampheto-sexual or not

and, if i am, if it’s perfectly fine to define my sexuality as “meth addict,” then how is calling Crystal Meth Anonymous “conversion therapy” out of line? because, if we go by the ace community’s (wrong) definition of “conversion therapy,” then 12 step recovery is literally ableist conversion therapy for anyone who falls on the addict-sexual spectrum!

if you think i’m making fun of the idea that mental illness can inform a person’s experience of sexuality, allow me to clarify: being a meth addict, an alcoholic, (and also HIV+) are all inextricably tied to my self-conception as a gay man. but that doesn’t make me “ampheto-sexual” lmao, i’m still just gay. i’m making fun of your politics, not your experiences.

did u just say the conversion therapy joke again? that’s your response when people tell you to stop making fun of people’s sexualities? thanks south park this has been real fun

and, my politics not my experiences? do you think my politics is making microlabels because they’re cool? or do you think maybe my politics is letting people define themselves​ however they like without deserving ridicule? because no one decides how to define them but themselves? people are making microlabels when they feel they need to describe something that there isn’t a word for yet, and I don’t see what’s wrong with people fucking describing themselves. do you really think people are coming up with microlabels to piss you off or something​? i still remember how it feels to come out and hear someone tell me i must be fucking delusional, how do you forget that? how do you keep making these jokes to make people doubt their own damn sexuality and gender and still think you’re fucking revolutionary

i am asking you point-blank: do you think ampheto-sexuality is valid? and i ask this as a person who spent multiple years uninterested in sex unless methamphetamines were involved.

no, fuck off, i do not believe in your bullshit because i know what a joke looks like. this is a decade old anti-sjw tactic? I don’t think it’s a real identity because you made it as a fucking meme you dickstain. I also don’t believe in fucking circumgender, absorbagender, cancergender, cupcakegender. I don’t believe in clovergender, that “I identify as a child” bullshit the 4chan pedophiles made up. I haven’t actually ever seen the use of aesthetic orientations outside of anti-sj tumblr. The only time i’ve seen fucking -platonic used as an affix is fucking queerplatonic, which I’ve never seen used in an orientation outside of these jokes. I have seen none of these things outside of people saying “wouldn’t it be ridiculous if the MOGAI’s do this?”

My one requirement of believing something is valid is if i see a real damn human being, who isn’t an obvious troll blog, say it’s a useful term that helps them. That’s it. I haven’t seen people say any of the unreasonable shit you’re putting in their mouths. It’s really not hard to avoid smearposts and rely on real people for my info, i think you should try it

this isn’t new, it’s not fun? these exact same “do you believe in this ridiculuous thing?” catch-22s have been coming from truscum tumblr, TERF tumblr, fucking neo-nazi tumblr for years. it’s such a basic part of reactionary politics that complaining about ‘made-up’ genders and sexualities are in every thinkpiece about how millenials are ruining the world. just… get a new joke i’m so tired

“Conservatives love Asexuals”

actuallyasexual:

It is interesting when people claim that asexuality as it is defined by asexual people is valued in conservative/right-wing politics, in order to position asexual people as capable of holding privilege for their asexuality. 

I think back to when asexuality appeared as a discussion topic on Fox News: Asexuality a sexual orientation? (2012), where conservative/right-wing commentators debate the existence of asexuality. To summarize, they:

  • Imply that asexuality is a woman’s experience, likening asexuality to the stereotype that women are often not in the mood.  
  • Suggest that men were labeled as asexual in a study because they “didn’t objectify women” and “didn’t want to have sex ten times a day”
  • Asexuality was invented because of an “overly sexualized” society, and that asexual people are just people with “normal” sex drives.
  • Joked that asexual people have already been represented on screen by sketch characters mocking non-binary/androgynous people. (x)
  • Joked about adding more letters to the LGBT+ community, implying that there were too many letters being added to the community. 
  • Joked about the need for asexual representation, promoting the idea that asexual representation will be boring/uninteresting. 
  • Questioning what discrimination asexual people could possibly face, while simultaneously contributing to discriminating ideas about asexuals. 
  • Referring to asexuals as “lepers” in society, because we do not experience sexuality the same way as everyone else. 
  • Outright stating that since asexuals represent a small portion of the population, asexuals shouldn’t need recognition. 
  • Joked that since asexuals don’t “want sex,” they must want something else and therefore asexuals are untrustworthy/unreliable. 

It turns out that conservative/right-wing commentators are just as willing to make the same invalidating statements and promote the same misconceptions about asexuality as exclusionists who engage in anti asexual rhetoric. 

Both erase male asexuality. Both stereotype asexuality. Both downplay the problems asexuals face, while creating problems for asexuals. Both mock the inclusion of more identities to LGBT+ spaces. 

Both make jokes about asexual representation, by likening asexual people to problematic characters. Both refer to asexual representation as unnecessary or uninteresting. Both position asexual people as untrustworthy and unreliable. 

This isn’t to say that asexuals do not exist in conservative spaces, but I really need the idea that asexuals are well loved and accepted in conservative politics to die. I’m an asexual person with a right-wing/conservative family. 

This also isn’t to say that some asexuals do not have privileges that other asexuals do not, but the attitudes represented above impact all asexual people to some degree. 

This is a small example of some of the attitudes I’ve seen and heard from people who are not asexual, especially from right wing/conservative people who often debate our existence altogether. 

Our asexuality as it is defined and lived by us is not accepted, and by perpetuating this lie to support your argument you are erasing the challenges asexual people may face by their family and peers. 

Also, if you claim to be so opposed to right wing/conservative values but your rhetoric mimics the kind of rhetoric that is used in this clip, then I think you need to rethink your values.