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Hey guys remember when people started ace discourse on a post about the gay pride flag that was honoring the creator, who had just died? Because I sure as hell do.

Didn’t they say it was divisive since aces bi and trans people weren’t community members yet even though the flag was made in 1978 when both bi and trans people were already in the community and aces aren’t lgbt for being ace???

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LGB was the most popular acronym less than ten years ago in Australia. idk about anywhere else, but, dear god cis exclusionists and the “alliance of SGA and Trans” shit like this still isn’t a functional alliance by any standards. it’s 2017 and i still have to give a trans 101 any time i enter predominantly gay LGBT spaces

idk about when exactly bisexuality even became a term or made it into the acronym but I’ve got a strong suspicion 1978s a fucking stretch to say their inclusion was in any way agreed upon by then

like… the flag doesn’t cover everyone. it’s good shorthand but it’s not an umbrella. even lesbians get a separate flag this isn’t even new

I’m trans obviously the flag made by an American, and our community in america has been trans inclusive since the 60s. Why don’t you do a little research. And isn’t you country so massively homophobic that gay people literally started a country while also being literally 15 times smaller in population??? Lesbians and bi people have there own flags because gay men were very dominant in the community early on and they wanted representation

that micronation is made up of one dude on an island? we also have the Hutt River province, another kingdom made up by a guy as a tax loophole, with a population of him and his wife, it’s ? micronations dude they aren’t real. you guys literally have Texas trying to cecede again and half your other states bending over backwards to criminalise gay marriage? we’re run by conservatives here but so far they aren’t bad enough to actually spout nazi propaganda so? god maybe both our countries are homophobic? maybe?

the 60’s. Trans wasn’t a word yet by the 60s, we were called transvestites back then, and called ourselves “full time” to distinguish ourselves from “part time"crossdressers.

The 60’s was the decade before TERFism became a thing, who caused quite a few years when there wasn’t a T. The ‘70s and ‘80s was when 2nd wave feminism was at it’s peak and TERFism was the most mainstream feminism there was. There was no trans acceptance in the community at this time unless you were okay with misgendering yourself, trans women had to call ourselves gay men and trans men only got acceptance if they called themselves butch lesbians. terfs are still saying we all should go back to before the T was in the acronym so when the fuck did that happen, the ‘50s? 20 years before terf ideologies existed?

the 80s is when​ we had to reclaim the word queer exactly because there was no trans acceptance or T in the acronym in any use by then

so the flag is for gay men? it’s settled it’s not an umbrella. and, if you want a flag that represents a community that trans people have never been removed from and one that has any reason to exclude aces, you should make that flag yourself and give it a name because that community sure doesn’t exist yet.

I was saying why lesbians and bi people have and deserve flags the rainbow flag is for everyone but it’s important to remember that cis white gay men robbed the movement from trans WOC almost as soon as the rioting was said and done, and that the flag was created years later, though the op and my reply were both about ace inclusionists not necessarily about trans women, the flag isn’t perfect and neither is the community and to this day it’s still mostly cis white gays predominantly, however with such a limited history and our near irradication in the 1980s the rainbow flag is a milestone for lgbt people but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect

yeah i’m correcting your misinfo why else would i be talking about trans rights here….

remember when we used more than four letters in the acronym or did that Legit not ever happen in the US? no pluses? not even the I or the Q? because, idk? where did they go

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young asexual, making jokes abt their lack of attraction for the first time and using some weird/cringey/gross language: haha sex is gross and i don’t understand those ppl who feel sexual attraction lol

aphobes: this is literally the most homophobic thing i’ve ever seen and i hope you kill yourself op

Ace minors are trying to make themselves feel better about their own sexuality, and in the process they don’t think about how they could come off. Like, they say “lmao sex is gross” when they mean “I get grossed out by the idea of me having sex”, or like “do allos think about sex all the time” when they want to talk about how hypersexual our culture is, espcially when they’re sensitive to it. They wind up saying some despicably gross things, absolutely. They should be educated; they aren’t coming from a place of malice (usually)! If we give them the language and knowledge to express themselves without accidentally throwing other people under the bus, most of them will jump on the opportunity

this is a very valuable addition thank you!

This is very often the case with so many things, especially this though. Minors should be educated, not harassed or dragged recklessly for their language when it’s an honest misstep. Education can go a long way, and as mentioned, it’s usually not coming from an inherently offensive or malice motive, they just might not know better.