“um it’s actually disproven that SGA is a conversion therapy term”
that’s cool, could you tell the mormons this? could u tell people running these camps and using these words, instead​ of feeling like you have to educate a gay girl about this, thanks

and also “it’s SSA that’s from conversion therapy, not SGA” yeah but they’re being used as synonyms. do u Really think people determined to fix the gay out of people care about a sex/gender distinction?

it costs 0$ to eradicate conversion therapy lingo from your vocabulary.

mooncryptid:

clitemoji:

mooncryptid:

discourse-allosaurus:

clitemoji:

it’s been what, a year of SGA Discourse? if i google SGA, i get pages about gardening and random businesses with those initials. if i google ā€œsame gender attractionā€ i get a few resources, but the top pages are christian and mormon sources and a lot of them call it a sin.

if i google MOGAI, i get resources. lots of resources and pages discussing terminology. the first page of Google has one link to ā€œMOGAI hates lesbiansā€, written by a Discourser who’s entirety writing about how ā€˜allosexual’ is insulting, but the rest are all pretty positive.

so just. I don’t think it’s ethical to tell people that LGBT+ is synonymous with ā€œSGA and Trans peopleā€ because it’s just a conversion therapy honeypot.

You realize when you look sga up it usually shows results for same sex attraction which is not the same and sga is derived from same gender loving

me turning in my graduate thesis: yeah i didn’t use any … what’s it called…. da-ta-basses? and i didn’t read any scientific journals to back up my claims, but i DID google my thesis statement and hit up a few google keywords for my abstract, and look at all these sick sources i got from buzzfeed and yahoo answers, so i know WITHOUT A DOUBT that i’m right and nobody else could be more right than me. google knows everything, y’allĀ 

are questioning kids going through databases now? kids google, that was my point. this wasn’t about anything but what kids are going to find if they look it up, because that is how they educate themselves outside of school and parents. and it brings up overwhelmingly christian sites. That’s All. I’m sorry this doesn’t have 20 citations and it’s not peer reviewed but i’m just saying they’re going to be harmed and shamed if that’s the acronym we tell kids about.

you didn’t mention questioning kids, or kids in general, in your original statement. you literally just said it was about what ā€œpeopleā€ thought. don’t fucking backtrack and lie to make it seem like you were ā€œuwu just protecting the kidsā€ because you ended up looking like a fool lmao

your post reads that YOU, in your infinite wisdom, are deciding whether MOGAI or SGA is a better acronym to use based on the first page of google, ignoring that a) the first page of google results is not a valid form of sources, b) that the google algorithm is replacing ā€œgenderā€ with ā€œsexā€ (since it searches for terms similar to the one you actually type in), and c) that google (like many search engines) is notorious for boosting pages that pay them money to the front page, which thereby banishes thousands of other legitimate results to the back of google hell.

sorry, your post doesn’t mention anything about kids, or questioning people, or LGBT people at all. the only context is someone who doesn’t actually know how to use google trying to pretend that their google results are the ultimate authority.

i said it’s unethical to send anyone looking for conversion therapy resources, and yes, especially questioning kids because they’re the most likely to google this stuff and are especially vulnerable. These are the first three results, are you going to pretend this is okay?

That’s the first page of results on my mobile. There are 2 results that are in anyway positive and not related to conversion therapy, which seem to be results based on my location.

This is what I get on my laptop – They’re literally all advocating for conversion therapy. I don’t know why the results look different, but my laptop isn’t giving any location-based results, so that may have something to do with it. I don’t know what the inner workings of google look like, and I’m not claiming to know. If anyone wants to show me a google search that gives less pro-conversion results, I can open my submission box for you. All I remember is when I was figuring out my identity, I relied a lot on google, and I know none of these results would have helped. I know googling words isn’t fuckingĀ ā€œscientificā€, but it’s what I remember doing as a youngster. kids, especially queer kids, get their sex ed from google. like, I’m not sayingĀ SGA discourers are pro-conversion therapy, I’m just saying this is such a specifically tumblr-discourser term that there isn’t enough use of the term to outnumber that of homophobic Christians.

and holy fuck is it that hard to say gay and bi and pan? and MLM and WLW? Sapphic and Achillean? There’s always better vocabulary you can use and it’s just not justifiable to keep spreading conversion therapy terms.

mooncryptid:

discourse-allosaurus:

clitemoji:

it’s been what, a year of SGA Discourse? if i google SGA, i get pages about gardening and random businesses with those initials. if i google ā€œsame gender attractionā€ i get a few resources, but the top pages are christian and mormon sources and a lot of them call it a sin.

if i google MOGAI, i get resources. lots of resources and pages discussing terminology. the first page of Google has one link to ā€œMOGAI hates lesbiansā€, written by a Discourser who’s entirety writing about how ā€˜allosexual’ is insulting, but the rest are all pretty positive.

so just. I don’t think it’s ethical to tell people that LGBT+ is synonymous with ā€œSGA and Trans peopleā€ because it’s just a conversion therapy honeypot.

You realize when you look sga up it usually shows results for same sex attraction which is not the same and sga is derived from same gender loving

me turning in my graduate thesis: yeah i didn’t use any … what’s it called…. da-ta-basses? and i didn’t read any scientific journals to back up my claims, but i DID google my thesis statement and hit up a few google keywords for my abstract, and look at all these sick sources i got from buzzfeed and yahoo answers, so i know WITHOUT A DOUBT that i’m right and nobody else could be more right than me. google knows everything, y’allĀ 

are questioning kids going through databases now? kids google, that was my point. this wasn’t about anything but what kids are going to find if they look it up, because that is how they educate themselves outside of school and parents. and it brings up overwhelmingly christian sites. That’s All. I’m sorry this doesn’t have 20 citations and it’s not peer reviewed but i’m just saying they’re going to be harmed and shamed if that’s the acronym we tell kids about.

it’s been what, a year of SGA Discourse? if i google SGA, i get pages about gardening and random businesses with those initials. if i google “same gender attraction” i get a few resources, but the top pages are christian and mormon sources and a lot of them call it a sin.

if i google MOGAI, i get resources. lots of resources and pages discussing terminology. the first page of Google has one link to “MOGAI hates lesbians”, written by a Discourser who’s entirety writing about how ‘allosexual’ is insulting, but the rest are all pretty positive.

so just. I don’t think it’s ethical to tell people that LGBT+ is synonymous with “SGA and Trans people” because it’s just a conversion therapy honeypot.

thatisdiscourse:

thatonetransaceguy:

Reminder to all the Christian LGBT+ individuals who have been told they are going to hell or that God hates them:

God loves everyone, no matter what gender you are or who you love, God will love you. Being LGBT+ does not mean you’re going to hell, I promise

This is discourse and does not belong in the positivity tag.

are you a bot or a troll? why is this tagged ‘inclusion’? do u think we should exclude Christians or what

cordeliacarstairrss:

the-devious-faery:

hate-police:

survivingasexuality:

ā€œAce lesbians are a thing!ā€
Look, at risk of sounding- dare I say, aphobic- I want every ā€œace lesbianā€ to take a big look at themselves and question WHY they feel the need to separate themselves from the rest of us Disgusting Sexual Lesbians.

I know homophobia is one hell of a drug, but there’s nothing bad about being a lesbian 100%. Even if you aren’t interested in sex, or if you don’t sexually experience attraction, there’s no need to separate yourself. You’re just a lesbian who doesn’t have sex, you don’t need a whole new label for that. Gay sex has been criminalized and demonized for long enough as it is. Don’t let homophobia make you think that you need to disclaim your identity with a vow of chastity.

This is such a fucking bad post OP holy shit.

Lesbians who are sexual aren’t disgusting.
And being ace isn’t fucking homophobic.
DOUBLE ALSO, ACE LESBIANS ARENT ANY LESS OF A LESBIAN FOR BEING ACE.

Get your head out of your ass.

Op is lesbophobic towards ace lesbians

y’all: ACE PEOPLE MAKE GAY PEOPLE OUT TO BE PREDATORY OVERLY SEXUAL DEMONS!!!!

also y’all: if ur a lesbian and u don’t want to fuck a girl.. really look inside urself.. and ask if perhaps you just hate urself insteadĀ 

queercassianandor:

anyways if u think its okay to say ā€œkweerā€/ā€œradikweerā€ or anything like that in any situation you owe my nb ass $50 dollars and a 5 page essay on why you purposely wanna use terminology that’s mostly used by truscum and terfs to mock nb/trans/queer ppl

birobotic:

bihets:

ace people of colour and gay ace people exist and deserve to see themselves represented. saying people are only allowed to headcanon straight characters, white characters, or nt characters as ace is doing a direct disservice to every ace person who is a member of a marginalized group.

Claiming ace characters cannot be poc or gay is whitewashing and straightwashing not only the characters, but the whole community; and while a clever tactic to villify them, its still racist and homophobic, no matter who its coming from.